Bradley-Alexander headed to The Lou

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Meaning that Timmy is gonna have to either stop Dev, or win EXTREMELY clearly in order to get the nod. We all know a close fight will go to Alexander.
     
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    Good. That's where the fight will draw.
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Agreed. A fight this big deserves a good crowd. I'm just hoping for a fair decision.
     
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    i can see this fight being a bullshit draw.
     
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    The winner better fight Khan in Boltonings
     
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    You mean Notlob?
     
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    Exactly, glad to see business sense prevail. Hoping it doesnt go to decision though.
     
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    wow is there any chance of this fight ending in a KO??
     
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    Anything other than a distance fight is highly unlikely.
     
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    Stranger things have happened, but a stoppage on either end is unlikely, and it'd be HIGHLY impressive for whoever scored the stoppage.

    But this fight has distance written all over it.
     
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    Like X said, I just want a fair decision.

    I think Dev is being a bit underrated after the Kotelnik fight(A fight which he won, although not impressive I agree), and he may lose, but I think he'll put up a very good fight. Neither guy is a big hitter. I expect some action but this will definitely go the distance.
     
  12. whiskey

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    Maybe some gamblers can answers this question. What's the latest you've seen an over/under for a boxing match? If a fight is 99% likely to go the distance do they (bookies) often just take that option off the table?

    (not saying this fight is the absolute lock of the century to go the distance, but the posts made me think of the question)
     
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    Second question, what is the shortest under you've seen for a fight that's scheduled for 12?
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Pac should fight the winner of this fight since we know the Mayweather fight is never happening.
     
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    He should fight the loser.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    I don't really like either guy, but I think Timmy is much better. I think he wins clearly.
     
  17. Irish

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    You know, if two Europeans of the level of these guys considered themselves the best 140lbrs in the world, the Yanks would be complaining.

    They would be double-complaining once it was announced that a matchup between the pair was going to take place in some nondescript locale.
     
  18. Irish

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    Draw what? Flies?
     
  19. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    I'm not sure. Prior to the Kotelnik fight, the MAJORITY of people were picking Alexander to win, now.... its like EVERYBODY is writing off Alexander's chances. I'm not ready to though.

    I usually dont buy into guys having "off nights" too often(unless its extremely apparent)... but I DO think that Alexander bought into his own hype, and underestimated Kotelnik.

    Bradley would be stupid to think that he's gonna get the same Devon that fought Kotelnik.

    The fight is still a pick em IMO. I really think its gonna go down to the wire, and be the type of fight that the decision will be disputed on the forums for weeks.

    If either man wins CLEARLY, then I'll be impressed.
     
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    The defining factor in any attempt to find a single dominant champion at 140 is going to be determined not by talent per se but by the respective styles of the fighters in question. It's possible that Alexander and Bradley are so bad that they could allow Khan to shuffle his way to a stink decision. It's likely Khan is so dopey as to allow Maidana to find him with the one or two hard shots Maidana needs to take him out. It's a bunch of guys who can't shoot straight, all of them threatening to shoot each other by accident, leaving one guy alive who can't figure out quite how he won.

    Right now, I give Bradley the nod, he seems to not rely not on punching but on consistent work-rate, great fitness, and has dealt with a lot of styles, from Witter to Holt etc. It might be boring but it is likely to be more effective across the division than any one-punch strategy or any "stink to victory" format.
     
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    People were really favouring Alexander prior to the Kotelnik fight? Why?

    In that case Timmy is downright underrated.

    For some reason he's not the most exciting fighter, and he lacks power, but he is very, very solid. He is a good boxer, he's pretty fast, good overall skills, decent defense, decent chin, good workrate and stamina.

    I haven't even seen the Kotelnik fight, so I'm basing this on previous Devon fights. I honestly think Bradley is just the better fighter, quite clearly so IMO.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    :giggle::giggle::bears::bears:

    Easily the quote of the week!
     
  23. Xplosive

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    You could very well be right. I thought Bradley-Peterson was gonna be a close fight, but Timmy dominated.

    He could pull the same thing here... but I think Alexander is a much better fighter then Peterson.
     
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    Trust me, that's what's gonna happen. We are going to wind up with a unified champion who himself cannot quite understand how easy he had it.:dunno:
     
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    most big fights the o/u is 12

    DLH/MW the total was
    over12 -230
    under12 +180

    approximate

    I won big on the over for that one.

    The three biggest bets Ive ever won in boxing were

    1. Mayweather over Hatton
    2 Will go 12 Dlh- MW
    3. Hopkins over Wright
     
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    I might be wrong too, I could be underrating Alexander a bit.

    He did look good Vs Urango no doubt, and I was especially surprised to see Devon take him out with 1 shot like that, a nice little left hook/uppercut if I recall.

    But Urango is just a basic plodder, and I don't think Devon looked particularly special in that to be honest, even though I was impressed with the performance.

    But with Timmy, like I said he's not exactly an electrifying fighter, but he reminds me a bit of a (obviously not as good and much less powerful) 140 pound Holyfield. Mainly because of how solid/complete he is. As I've said before, he's also very reminiscent of Lil Stevie.

    If forced to bet on 1 person to beat everyone else at 140, it would have to be Bradley.
     
  27. Irish

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    the other thing about Urango is that he had reached that Bumdomir stage of his career that somebody, a la Saul Alvarez, was going to take him out. I think the Kotelnik fight is a much clearer indication of Alexanders talent, or lack thereof.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    I agree with you though. Between Khan, Alexander, Bradley, Maidana, and Ortiz.... NONE of them are really anything special. They're all talented, with gaping flaws.

    If a prime Tszyu, Pryor, or Chavez were around today, they'd clean house with all these guys.

    Hell, even a prime Mel Taylor would clean house with all the current 140 pounders.
     
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    Hatton on his own might do it, never mind Tszyu. Judah I would make a favourite against everyone bar perhaps Maidana and Tiny Tim.

    It's an exciting division but it is a step down from 1999-2007, for sure.
     
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    Prime Judah would kick the shit outta Maidana IMO. Chino is one of my fav fighters, but even I gotta say he's become overrated.

    But I agree. I'd take the 05 Hatton over any of these guys.
     

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