We can only speculate how well he'll do in the UFC 170lb division. The last time he was there he fought decent, but not top guys, and hasn't outside of it either. Seriously, who was the last real 170lber he's fought, Thomas Denny? Everyone he's fought between Ray Steinbeiss and Thomas Denny fight at 155 now. Smith is at 170 now, Shamrock probably should have been, but he fought neither at that weight. What I'm getting at is that Diaz hasn't fought any good, legitimate 170lbers in a long time. He's had some good wins, and has fought a lot of natural 155lbers at 170. That doesn't mean to me that he comes into the UFC and starts dominating everyone outside of GSP. Put him in the UFC against some good 170lbers and he won't look as good, I'm sure of it.
Get real. In 2010, during his 8 fight win streak, Diaz beat 2 recent Dream Welterweight Champs in Zaromskis and Sakurai. I realize the Dream WW limit is 168 so if you want to split hairs, then go ahead. And it's easy to dismiss Zaromskis NOW since Diaz exposed him but at the time he entered Strikeforce he was a huge favorite to beat Diaz and be the top guy in the division. Nevertheless, both were good enough at WW to hold the Dream title within the last year and a half. Not to mention, within that same period Sakurai absolutely horse-whipped TLC's boy Aoki at WW. It's speculation to talk about how any non UFC fighter would do in the UFC. But there is no way Diaz belongs anywhere but 170. He is basically the uncrowned Dream WW champion yet you say he doesn't belong at the weight. Unreal.
Actually, technically, Che Mills exposed him, but he looked good against no-hopers like Jason High and what not. Sakurai has sucked for over 3 years, he beat Aoki because Aoki is rail thin at 155, let alone 170. Being the champion of DREAM at WW is not a feat. Jason High was a finalist ffs. Yeah. Some real world beaters DREAM has.
Re-read my posts. I never once said he doesn't belong at 170, what I'm saying is he hasn't fought any good 170lbers recently. You obviously misread this: This line was referring to KJ Noons, not Diaz. To make myself clear, Diaz absolutely is a 170lber. His last 3 fights at 170 have been against 155lb fighters. Noons, Zaromskis, and Mach are all better suited to 155. I don't care how many fights they take at 170, they are tiny compared to the guys in the ufc.
Given Aoki's fights in DREAM, I'm not even going to bother pointing out the hypocrisy of that statement.
Well, 12 of his last 16 fights have been under the Dream banner. Your comment was So you do the math son. If Aoki can't be considered a DREAM fighter, who in the fuck can?
You might want to take a remedial language class before throwing stones. Your last paragraph simple said: So maybe the issue is your two incomplete sentences that do not mention a specific weight class. :dunno: <TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset" class=alt2>Yeah. Some real world beaters DREAM has. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
It is a shame how utterly basic our high school track 1 English classes are, so much that retards like you have graduated. I hope our future generations can read a few papers/theses and be able to comprehend them....and given the mystical ability to infer. Then again, they are the "normal" classes, aka the proving grounds of the grunts of society.
Trust me, your post read far more like the finger painting of a retarded toddler with impaired motor skills than any 'theses' I've ever read. I always know you're beaten when you start trying to go off on a meaningless tangent about spelling or education. The problem is that 90% of the folks on this site have likely progressed further in their education than a still-waiting-on-puberty teenager like yourself. The bottom line is that you slammed the talent in PRIDE while trying not to diminish the competition Aoki has faced. You wrote yourself into a corner and are now trying the only way out. Good luck with that. Game. Set. Match.
I didn't say anything about PRIDE, moron. Also, I'm curious, what college have you graduated from that you are now a grunt in society?
Maybe not specifically in this thread but you have made many an argument discrediting the talent in PRIDE. :jaw:In fact, you are the only person that I've ever known to do this. I'm not gonna get into another pissing contest with you (you make it so easy!), but TRPLSEC wins this round, son. Spin it anyway you want to strengthen your argument but Aoki will never be the world-beater that you think he is.