Khan-Maidana & Ortiz-Peterson: Final Predictions

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/default.stm

 

Maidana's gas tank(Or lackthereof) is one of the things that saved Khan tonight.

I doubt he wants any parts of Maidana after this.

 

The thing of it is......nobody will.

Maidana has just doled out two pretty serious beatings to two guys who will now be regarded as the next natural pairing in the division.

In my opinion, with his KO of Ortiz and his battering of Khan, it's Maidana who has staked the strongest claim to the #1 spot, not anyone else.

And remember- he beat Corley in the interim.

 

Maidana is extremely useless, and very overrated,.. he's like his compatriot, Carlos "he da welterweight champ!" Baldomir,.. if not for that 1 out of 900 swish that landed,..we would be here discussing how slow and pathetic he is, and his uppercut is like that of Tyson Fury's, he's so innacurate that he even misses the guard with it,.. he had to hold Khan still so he could rub it softly between his forearms,.. he's also clearly an arsehole, may he never find the performance enhancing drugs he needs to compete properly.

 

There's something to be said about Maidana, someone so crude but is able to compete with or beat much faster, slicker fighters like Khan and Ortiz.

He needs to improve his stamina though. I said it earlier, and PR just said it too.

He was giving Khan the beat down then just gassed a bit.

 

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Maidana IN HIS MIND can still feel unbeaten. He arguably won the Kotelnik fight, and woulda won tonight if not for the KD and the bullshit point deduction.

I actually like the idea of Maidana vs Lucas Matthyse. Matthyse deserves another big fight after getting jobbed against Zab.

Speaking of which... I'd pick Matthyse to KO Ortiz.

 

fft:

Knap.

His record is just about right the way it is, and judging by his psychopathic character, he does see himself undefeated, and will continue to, despite many, many, many more losses to come, you crumpet.

 

Maidanas right hand is very fast and he doesn't telegraph it at all. Very hard to avoid his right hand and it has serious power on it.

 

Excellent fight. Cortez was awful. Kahn won close but clear, you're pretty stupid if you scored it for Maidana.

 

Khan CLEARLY won that fight, Maidana closed it up in the late rounds but he was never ahead. Great fight, and anyone questioning Khans heart after that just simply does not like the guy and wants to find something to hate about him.

 

Khan's shut up alot of people now, thank fuck! He showed every attribute of a champion. Took Maidana's best shots and stayed on his feet. Proud of the boy.

 

No.

The guy is china chinned and can't fight at mid to close range any better than most 2 month novices of the sport. He's an incredible athlete and he has heart but those & a great trainer are pretty much the only attributes of a champion he has. He's as 1 dimensional & vulnerable as champions come.

 

Yup. He quieted the doubters tonight. Took shots from a pure puncher and hung in there and beat him.

I love it how people on here call him a "fraud." Fighting Malignaggi in NYC then taking on the hardest puncher in the division on foreign soil. I'm guessing these are the same people that were praising Floyd for signing the fight with the "tough, gritty" JM Marquez.

 

He fought a guy with 27 KOs in 30 fights and didn't go down. He was hurt a few times, yes, but never down. China chinned? I don't think so.

 

Another mark against Khan - he's feather fisted at this level. I can't believe Khan could land the shots he did last night and not put a serious dent in a guy.

 

He was literally a punch away from being KO'd about 4 or 5 times. The guy has a very weak chin.

 

Using that logic, when Khan landed the body shots and Maidana grimaced and doubled over, Khan backed off a shot that would have surely ended it all.

If we're using the "one punch away" theory, Khan KO's Maidana in 1.

artie:

 

If you like.....but that was one body punch that he never replicated in 11 rounds. Body punches are like that they come like bolts of lightning.

Khan was walking a tightrope throughout the whole thing.

 

His chin isn't as bad as people think, you can tell that after this fight. He didn't go down, he didn't take a knee to take a count in the 10th, he carried on, shrugged it off and came right back at Maidana.

 

Irish, you gotta give Khan a break buddy. You gotta give him credit after this. Why do you continue to mock the kid :kidcool:

 

I'd like to see this.

 

he didn't 'shrug off' a single shot. He clung on. Barely.

 

Wrong word to describe my meaning, but he got through the tough patches and won :kidcool:

 

Look, Khan is vulnerable, he always will be. However, two things, his chin is not AS bad as people made out, its not iron obviously, but it isn't like hes just going to go over from one shot, he took some HELLACIOUS punches in that 10th round and stayed upright. Secondly, he made a mockery of those who said he lacked heart, that cannot be taken away from him.

 

One judge gave Khan the last round. I said that the power of home town protection would swing it.

@Shake: I already gave Khan credit for bravery. But he is a dumb fighter who is also protected.

As for this....well......http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/dec/12/amir-khan-boxing?intcmp=239

This is the same Kevin Mitchell who doesn't have a good word to say about the Klitschkos, and in fact routinely mocks Wlad's performance in the first Peter fight, deriding him constantly.

 

The one temple shot Maidana landed outside of Khans vision rocked Khan to the core and made him do the baby giraffe dance.

Cortez helped Khan every inch of the way. It's easy to have heart when you know that all you have to do is tie a guy up and the referee will help you.

Khan clearly now, is not an elite fighter. He was being hit with those slow, telegraphed uppercuts from Maidana like Gatti used to against Ruelas.

Khan, worryingly for him, seems to have ZERO late-rounds power. He landed a beaut of a body shot to end the first round, and then perversely never went back to the midsection in the next round.

 

That's pretty bad... though funny that Lampley and Merchant also insisted that Khan's late flurry was enough to steal the round (though I guess with the inclusion of "steal", they were technically right).

As for that article... wow, is all that I can say. I know coverage on that side of the Atlantic is often purple, but damn. That's ridiculous. Khan showed bravery and answered questions (despite what's being debated here), but it was a gut check. Benn-McClellan revisited, it most certainly wasn't.

That said, Khan won the fight,

 

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STOP THE PRESS!!! JAKE AGREES WITH ME!!

Seriously, this is the same Kevin Mitchell who thinks Wlad didn't answer many questions with his win over Sam Peter in 2005, yet, and I think this is where our agreement converges- Benn vs McClellan revisited??? Please.

I just can't give Khan the last round in fact I felt there was ever reason, a la Botha vs Briggs round 10, for it to be scored a 10-8, Khan was in total retreat, shipping shots, and doing absolutely nothing in return. Maidana looked like he wasn't even in there with a live body by that stage.

Compare Briggs vs Botha Round 10 to Khan vs Maidana Round 12, and you may see where I am coming from.

You tell me if Botha took any worse of a beating in the 8th than Briggs did in the 10th, or more pertinently, if Briggs was in any worse shape in the 10th than Khan was in the 12th.

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Botha, a 3-to-1 underdog, unleashed a blistering 10th-round assault that left Briggs on the verge of going down. All three judges awarded Botha a 10-8 round, enabling him to obtain a 94-94 score on two judges' cards; the third card had it 95-92 in Botha's favor. The result was a draw by the majority decision.{CBS}