Khan-Maidana & Ortiz-Peterson: Final Predictions

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  1. meetthefeebles

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    Translation:

    Khan= Pakistani= Bad

    Wlad= White= Good

    MTF:Hanzkiller:
     
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    So you don't think the fact that one fight was horrible to watch and the other one was a massive crowd pleaser had anything to do with it? Boring fighters are always greeted tepidly and blood and guts action guys revered. That's far and away the strongest bias at play in boxing coverage.
     
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    The Guardian Newspaper is on hand like the National Guard to let rip with a few volleys just in case anyone ever doubts the legitimacy of the reign of "King Khanute"

    There is such a thing as kite flying, Hut.

    Steve Dave is doing it right now.

    Khan has the hacks onside to pump out what he needs them to pump out.

    And let's be honest, did the hacks all jump onside with Wlad when he signed up with Steward? Fucking 6 years later and a shedload of title defences later, and they still find the time to bash his performances.

    Mitchell wrote an article as recently as November 22nd 2010 bashing them saying they "talk too much".:dunno:
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    I don't like most of the British' press coverage of boxing either. That is why I choose not to read most of it.

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  5. Irish

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    Klitschko has stopped almost all of his opponents since he lost to Brewster.

    He definitely has iced his last 3. Two of them needed immediate medical attention.

    Who Khan been stopping?

    Little Paulie? Yeah that was a thriller.

    Come on.

    I think you are reaching here. The general British perception of the Klitschkos is propped up and maintained not by any independent investigation of their own {like watching the fucking fights} but by tabloid hacks, online pundits and the like.
     
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    Ach...that's not the point.

    You wont be attending the arrival of Terry Koran Burner at the EDL rally but you will still object to it, right?

    You can't just dispense of the argument by saying "I don't read that".
     
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    You know that is at the very best an oblique consideration of mine.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Khan is a very good fighter and last night he answered alot of questions and deserves respect from people on here. No one is denying he has flaws but no one can deny the kid has the heart for battle.

    Wladimir Klitschko is also a very good fighter. I like him.
     
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    There is not a single Khan fight which comes close to the stupifying dullness of Wlad throwing 'power parries' at Ibragimov. Not even close...

    MTF :nono:
     
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    Actually no. I believe in freedom of speech, and those lunatics are free to do or say whatever crackpot rubbish it is that gets their little cocks all stiff and proud.

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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Fixed

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    The best guy Khan has laid out, stopped, busted up dropped and sent to the hospital is...........?
     
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    I've warmed considerably to the Klits in the last couple of years, tune in for all their fights now and so on. But they aren't crowd pleasers (Wlad certainly isn't) and that fact comes before the media coverage, it doesn't result from it. Eventual stoppages or not, their fights are one sided, devoid of drama, take place in silent arenas with no atmosphere and so on. They're not exciting spectacles. The Peter fight which had two sided action was completely marred by Wlad flopping to the ground again and again and again and holding incessantly when he stood up. There were knockdowns and shifts in the drama but no two way action or exchanges.

    Is the above true or have I just been brainwashed by newspapers I don't read? :lol:
     
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    Haye also thinks Khan can beat Mayweather. "Mayweather's a boxer. He doesn't really close the range the way Maidana does. The shots Amir was getting hit with tonight are shots that Mayweather doesn't really throw. He is a box-puncher, keeps it long, looks for angles. I believe Amir is as quick as him – and could Mayweather take the onslaught that Amir was taking tonight? I've never seen Mayweather in that position. If that fight does happen, I'm backing Amir all the way."
     
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    Wlad is a heavyweight man. When a HW tees off on garbage opponents he is BOUND to cause damage.

    Khan fights at ten stone. Those little fuckers can hit each other all day without doing that kind of major damage.

    Anyway, you don't think Maidana went to the hospital after that last night? Apart from 'stopped', he fulfills your criteria quite nicely...

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    I don't think Khan will beat Mayweather, but he will win rounds and be competitive.
     
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    False. The Prescott fight was at 135. They hit each other for 59 seconds. You must have a very short day.

    Maidana did not get the Chris Byrd II treatment. Or the Chagaev treatment. Or the Eddie Chambers treatment. Or even the Sam Peter One treatment.

    Come on.

    This is the perception you see?
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/gal...fight?intcmp=239#/?picture=369667370&index=10

    Click the link. Read the caption. See my point.
     
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    And by the way - has there been a bigger Khan hater down the years than me? I've a dedicated signature to saying he sucks, for fuck sake.
     
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    Mayweather would take the fight to the inside and mess Khan up. Floyd has a fighting brain and versatility. *sex groan*
     
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    You see, that is a far more acceptable appraisal of the reality than what Gayemaker came out with. But people hear this shit, clap their hands and act as if what Haye said had any semblance to reality.
     
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    You are being fooled by Maidana's strong finish. :eek:hno::eek:hno:
     
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    Yup we're all being fooled by one thing or another.
     
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    FFS, you are being faceous again. You know what I meant perfectly well. Even the most useless HW can fuck another one up with a single punch. It happens all the time. Fighters at lower weights can, but rarely do.


    Yeah, but that lot were old, shot and/or complete garbage to begin with. This was a fight between two, 'prime', top five fighters. Huge difference.

    I don't see your point at all. I see photographs with captions which someone sad obviously thinks is funny when they are not. I see what I usually see on the rare occasions I read the Guardian. Rubbish writing.

    MTF :dunno:
     
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    Dude....Peter wasn't shot and old in 2005. He was 25-0, unbeaten.
     
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    Of course Haye is being an epic retard in saying Khan beats Floyd, but one thing he says is very wrong. He says Khan is as fast as Floyd.

    No, actually in regards to handspeed Khan is much faster. At 147 Floyd's speed is nothing exceptional. His hands and feet are signficantly slower than before, people seem to be imagining the 130 pound Floyd, when the truth is, this Floyd is nowhere near as quick and mobile as that Floyd.

    Of course he's probably even more skilled and crafty, stronger, and would destroy Khan, but that's beside the point.

    One thing he does do quicker than Khan is think and react, which is of course a large part of being a fast fighter.

    Speed is mental as well as physical, a big component of it is how fast you can think and react in the ring.
     
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    Well that's David Haye for you. Even the stuff he get's right he get's wrong.
     

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