Olympic gold medalist vs world champ

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  1. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Pete Rademacher, the heavyweight Olympic champion of '56, challenged Floyd Patterson in his very first professional fight and lost. Could anybody have done it? Name cases where you would pick an Olympic gold medalist or another amateur with no pro fights over a world champion of the same weight division. For example Tyson or Foreman would probably have beaten Patterson after no pro experience. Name some others
     
  2. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    kwang sun kim was an 88 gold medalist and only in his 5th or 6th pro fight or so was whupping chiquita gonzalez in a 12 round title fight until he gassed and was stopped in the 12th round.
     
  3. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Do you mean an Olympic gold medalist vs a champ from any era?

    If so i'd take most Olympic heavyweight champs from the 60's onward to beat guys like John L Sullivan.
     
  4. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Drawn fighters are banned from this thread because of their vast superiority, so try to find guys from remotedly same era.
     
  5. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Obv didn't get the gold, but I'd have my money on Roy Jones against Rene Jacquot who had a 154 title in 1989.
     
  6. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Tyson won an Olympic Gold?

    Personally, I don't think he would've beaten Patterson at the same time he'd fought Rademacher, medal or no medal, & the same goes for Foreman. However, I could see how the upset could happen.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Meldrick Taylor would have beaten Eric Aiken
     
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    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I would definitely pick Tyson over Patterson. I think quick KO artists have the best chance in this type of comparison. For guys like SRL it would be difficult to hold up for 12 rounds, even against Baldomir
     
  9. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    whitaker would've beaten david diaz or jesus chavez
     
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    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Teofilo Stevenson over Leon Spinks.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    EXACTLY what I was thinking.

    End of thread.
     
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    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Roy Jones Jr over Jason Matthews @ 160
     
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    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Felix Savon would surely have KO'd some bum heavyweight champs
     
  14. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Nevertheless, Tyson is ineligible for the thread.

    Alternatively, there is Frazier for Patterson, but then, there are weaker Champions in HW history to target. Much, in fact.

    Edit: I guess going by the original thread idea, Frazier isn't eligible either, since he didn't win his Gold in the same weightclass as Patterson was Champion.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Clay was the heavyweight champion when Frazier was the Olympic Champion, not Patterson.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    What about Cassius Clay vs Archie Moore?
     
  17. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    It says a Champ from any era, though.
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Ah, true.

    Then the list is extensive

    I'd pick Clay over:

    Andries
    Harding
    Hearns
    Griffin
    Maxim


    Stevenson over:

    Spinks
    Seldon
    Bruno
    McCall
    Rahman
    etc etc etc
     
  19. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Well, if you water it down by going after partial titleists, sure.

    Just limiting it to linear Champions, though, is a tough ask. Foreman won Gold at Heavyweight, & I suppose he'd have his chances with the likes of Burns, Briggs, & Spinks.
     
  20. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Well, if you water it down by going after partial titleists, sure.

    Just limiting it to linear Champions, though, is a tough ask. Foreman won Gold at Heavyweight, & I suppose he'd have his chances with the likes of Burns, Briggs, & Spinks.
     
  21. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Tyson is eligible.
     
  22. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    ^^^At which Olympics did Tyson win Gold?
     
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    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Check out the thread starters first post. Tyson is eligible.
     
  24. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    True enough, in greater detail, he is. I don't think he'd have beaten Patterson without any pro fights, however.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    I would take rookie pro Leonard over the limited Baldomir in a title fight. Leonard was a different class of fighter, even as a new pro.
     

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