Haye might win by DQ if he is still there after 3 or 4 rounds. Golota wasnt the smartest but he was technically and physically light years ahead of Haye. Golota has a jab the like of which Haye hasnt ever seen.
Haya backed out of the klitschko fight because he was having problems adjusting to fighting some one that large golota would destroy him Note: I realize i repeated the same thing
As much as I despise Haye (at least these days), he's not being given any kind of credit here. He's a MUCH smarter fighter than Golota could ever dream to be. Honestly, I don't even see this fight being very competitive. Haye would box for as long as he had to, then grow some balls and move in for the finish once he realized Golota was emotionally spent. Not sure when that comes, other than to say the fight doesn't see the championship rounds.
Agreed, Haye has a good shot here. A couple of right hands from him might crumble Golota's confidence, and after that he is useless
I think the preponderance of your logic must be based more on Golotas flaky character than on any brilliance on Hayes behalf.
It's based a lot on Golota's psyche, sure. Also the fact that he doesn't boast a single win over anyone as good as Haye. Can't say the same in reverse. The thing that bugs me is that 1997 Golota, 1999 Golota and even 2000 Golota is the same fighter as 1996 Golota. The biggest difference being that he didn't have a used-up version of Riddick Bowe standing opposite him in fights during any of those other years.
1996 Golota was a prime Golota not because of Bowe but because of Golota. Post Bowe Golota was a scared Golota. 1996 Golota was an undefeated Golota with confidence and confidence or rather lack there of was one of his biggest weaknesses (hence the anxiety attacks and shit) therefore 1996 = prime. 1996 Golota was a bully. Post 1996 was a bully that got out bullied and lost his mojo. And anything past fall of 1999 Golota is less then 50% of what he was because of the car accident which injured his left shoulder (his jab was gone since then) and that shoulder remains injured till this day.
golota, by logic should lose in every mythical matchup scenarios vs. any current/former titlist or any decent heavyweight for that matter. the guy has ZERO, i mean ZERO win vs. a top fighter. haye KO5
I guess it depends on how good we're pretending Golota to have been. In 1996, he looked the part. But where are the wins to prove that he was ever as good as being suggested? Even before Bowe, he almost got himself DQ'd against Danell Nicholson and that Samoan dude that he bit during the fight. So in response to BOSS' claim that he was a bully who got bullied - I say, nonsense. He was always a headcase, and it had everything to do with his never racking up a noteworthy win. Of Haye's last eight fights, five wins came against legit Top 10 competition. In 51 career fights, Golota has a grand total of zero wins against Top 10 competition.
Nah just a former undisputed champion and current titlist. Just another Danel Nicholson/T Rex Sanders, really.
:: The top 10 Heavyweights of the 1990s was light years ahead of the top 10 Heavyweights of 2008 onwards, remember :: :: :dunno: Please, don't be quoting Hayes wins at Cruiser, even his "Top 10" wins at Cruiser and then be throwing them in with Golota. Hayes wins at Heavyweight are Bonin, Ruiz, Barrett and Fraudley Harrison. Barrett wasnt top 10 when Wladimir was beating the piss out of him in London in 2000 In fact, the top 10 then was, according to Boxing Monthly: 1: Lennox Lewis (Britain), 37-1-1, WBC/IBF/IBO 2: Evander Holyfield, 36-4-1 3: David Tua (New Zealand), 36-1 4: Mike Tyson, 48-3-0-1 5: Chris Byrd*, 31-1, WBO champ 6: Michael Grant, 31-1 7: Andrew Golota (Poland), 36-4 8: Oleg Maskaev (Kazakhstan), 20-2 9: Wladimir Klitschko (Ukraine), 34-1 10: John Ruiz, 36-3 Golota, this now the post-accident Golota fought 5 of the men on that list, winning, as stated, no fights, and getting 1 draw, scoring 4 knockdowns and being stopped thrice, once a KO preceded by some injection {Lewis, and he would have lost anyways thanks to his psyche} once against Tyson when he quit, and Grant, in a fight in which he was winning, on his feet when he refused to respond satisfactorily to the referee. Haye wouldn't have won any of those fights either. John Ruiz was barely cracking top 10 in 2000 and he was well outside it by the time Haye needed 9 rounds and more rabbit punches than Richard Adams and Enid Blyton could conceive between them. Against Ruiz, a still useful Ruiz, he had his man down twice early, as he did Grant. If that is David Haye in there, he never survives those knockdowns, in much the same way he never survives the knockdowns Golota put on Bowe. Haye can beat all the top 10 Cruiserweights and top 10 heavyweights of 2008-2010 he likes. As it happens, he hasn't fought any top 10 heavyweights of the current era. According to Boxrec, he has fought and beaten the top 17 ranked Heavyweight, at Cruiserweight, JM Mormeck.
You tell em Irish. To make it in the 90's was a lot harder than now. Haye would never ever crack the top 10 in the 1990's
golota is known for his LOSSES. his ranking was based on his efforts before he shitted himself and quit.
The guys that Golota lost to - in his prime, were guys that would have waxed Haye with far less difficulty than they did Golota, if indeed Haye ever took the fights. Suffice it to say, if Haye was a cruiserweight during the same Era that Golota was a prime heavyweight- Haye woulda stayed a Cruiserweight. Golota is known for his losses at heavyweight. So what? So was George Chuvalo. So was Ron Lyle. So was Gerry Cooney. I guess Haye beats them too. I'm not saying Haye cant beat Golota. I'm saying the guys Golota lost to would have waxed Haye too, had Haye fought the same versions of them that Golota did. So really any analysis of Haye vs Golota is going to have to take respective losses and poor performances of both men with a pinch of salt. Doing so, I see Golota come out and establish the jab, straight off, and that gives Haye problems, with his leap amateur style. And if he Rabbits Golota, Andrew is very likely to put his testicles out through his nostrils.
How does what you think Haye would do against common opponents effect a fight between Haye and Golota? Topic: I pick Haye. Golota never met a big fight he couldn't lose in. He may have had potential at one point but he never fulfilled it.
Haye beats Valuev by a hair and he is supposed to beat a prime Golota? I don't think so. You wanna talk about not having any good wins at heavyweight ? What about Haye ? A shot Ruiz ? A shot Barrett ? Beating Valuev by a hair ? A shot Audley ? Okay fine he did beat a prime Bonin :giggle: but other than a prime Bonin what the hell has Haye done ?
Let's be more specific then: who has Haye beaten who could've ended Bowe's career the way that Golota did? Who has Haye beaten who has a jab as good as Golota's, circa 1996? Haye sucks. You will see.
This would be a tough one to call. The '96 Golota that beat Bowe was pretty damn good and his jab was potent, but his mental state was, well, mental! Golota would struggle with Haye's speed, but if he can consistently land the jab and keep his mental state in order, he beats Haye by TKO, but if he can't land and struggles, Haye wins by KO/TKO.
Yes, it is hard to see Andrew not finding a way to lose this one. But by that same token, he should have bailed out when he beat T-Rex Sanders in a real ding-dong battle....Andrew didn't always bail out.
but Sanders was a terrible fighter I see what you mean about evrything because Haye is truly NOTHING and you are right that every guy that beat Golota would have beaten Haye as well, but Golota vs/ Sanders is as meaningless as Haye vs. Bonin
