RJJ's resume STILL shits on B-Hops

Who do you rank ahead of Ruiz at that time?

 

How Jones/Ruiz was perceived at the time has nothing to do with my opinion. I'm telling you how it was. I'm telling you, factually, how it was looked at back in 2003.

Those constantly bitching about opionions and facts are usually the ones constantly arguing stupid shit. Yes, my opinion is better than many around here... and when it comes to boxing, my opinion is obviously much more informed and more important than yours. By a lot. We aren't on the same level.

Are you tired? How many times do I have to agree that Hopkins has had a better career for it to sink in?

 

Lewis, Wlad and Byrd, maybe? Wlad wasn't nearly as proven as Ruiz at the time... but he still hadn't been knocked out by Sanders (that happened the week after Jones/Ruiz if memory serves), so even though he hadn't done as much as Ruiz, he was looked at as the better fighter at the time.

 

As sad as it sounds, at the time, Ruiz' win over Kirk Johnson took a giant shit on anything Vitali had done to date.

 

I figured Vitali would be in the list. I disagree. Byrd is borderline also.

 

Byrd had the more convincing win over Holyfield. And the Tua win. I ranked Byrd higher at the time.

 

Also, as I said at the time, if Ruiz was such an easy beat where was the line of guys looking to take the title?

 

Me too but they weren't worlds apart.

 

Sorry, a win over Johnson was a lot more valuable in terms of ratings in 2003 than a loss to Chris Byrd.

 

Perhaps most was a bit much. I really just mean you, which is more relevant to this discussion anyways.

 

So it wasn't an easy fight?

 

A lot more than a loss though. Either way, Vitali wasn't rated ahead of Ruiz in the 2003 ratings because he didn't deserve to be. I looked it up. It was

Champ: Lewis

1. Wlad
2. Byrd
3. Tua
4. Holyfield
5. Ruiz
6. Rahman
7. Vitali

 

Vitali hadn't done enough to be ranked higher. This isn't a who beats who list, it's who was more accomplished in 2003.

 

Because you don't understand how ratings work.

 

On steroids.

 

Jones also said he'd fight Tyson for 100 million dollars. I wouldn't put much store in what Roy was saying after the win. He did win a belt so could call himself the champ. Whether you and I disagree with him is irrelevant. Roy Jones was a HW champion of the world.