Klitschko Brothers Ready To Take On Haye

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video sums it all up really.

 

That's so inept i don't even know who is supposed to be who...

 

he might be laughable but his bank account is not. He's prolly getting paid ten times his cruiser purses right now. So you can't laugh at him for being a smart business man.

I agree he's a ducking lil bitch but he played his cards perfect to the point where the Klits are basically both begging for a fight now.

 

:atu::atu:

 

His point is still not as laughable as your 'smartest fighters in the game' comment.

Kilts are good boxers in a shit era, sorry if that bursts your bubble.

 

Both brothers arrived in Germany, post 1996 Olympics, neither spoke any German, very little English, they hooked up with Universum and were probably the first high-profile boxers, high profile Universum boxers that is, to actively seek a split from Universum and a greater control of their own future. This initial ruckus saw them lose a lawsuit, principally concerning Vitali, where the court ruled that they owed KP Kohl some fights thanks to Vital's injury related layoffs circa 2000.

Once those fights were served, the connection with KP Kohl was severed and K2 was soon set up. Unlike De La Hoya, the Klitschkos managed to do it without referring to any "Jews from Harvard" and kept Shelley Finkel and Bernd Boente on-side.

In the meantime, both brothers have become fluent in German and English and both have graduated and got their Phd.

Both men are, of their own accord, able to deal with the media, deal with press conferences conducted in a tongue other than their native one, and remain composed and well conducted.

I'd say we aren't dealing with Dunski's here.

And the notion that they are begging Haye for anything is risible. Both dudes have Haye figured out. They know his nature and they know a dis-informing little cunt when they see one.

 

I know they don't need him Irish, but it's not as funny as you think. They are going outta their way more than for anybody else since Vitali begged for a Lewis rematch.

Ain't saying much since they dictated terms for everybody else after that.


Begging is of course a bit much but he got their attention and they WANT this fight, more than he wants it.

 

kind of my point man:giggle:

 

That's pretty old.

 

Listen to your elders,... cracker arsed motherfucker.

Holyfield: Klitschkos Very Beatable, David Haye Can Win!

By Mark Vester

Former undisputed world heavyweight Evander Holyfield is backing WBA champion David Haye to defeat either of the Klitschko brothers. Holyfield is impressed with Haye's hand speed and sees the difference in speed as the key to beating the brothers.

“Haye has the fastest hands – and hand speed can get you a long way in this sport,â€￾ said Holyfield to Daily Express. “I have been impressed with Haye. He seems very confident in his ability and has a great chance against the Klitschkos, who are very beatable. He’s a great fighter and he is getting better.â€￾

Holyfield doesn't appear to be very impressed with the records of the Klitschkos. He thinks Haye can exploit Wladimir chin, and Vitali's lack of speed.

Holyfield added: “Wladimir has been down a lot of times as a pro and Vitali is not very quick. They’ve had a lot of opponents who have not been at the highest level and Haye definitely belongs at that level. They should be great fights.â€￾

 

Holyfield only says those things so the Judge in Atlanta will think he is insane and then Evander wont do jail time for falling behind on his child welfare payments.

 

Nah he says it for the same reason why almost all other boxers favor a certain boxer, because he shares a common opponent and therefore thinks they are better than they actually are.

 

He shares several common opponents with the Klitschkos: Chris Byrd, Ray Mercer, Frans Botha, Larry Donald, Lennox Lewis, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, Vaughn Bean.

 

Neither of them are that good (Wlad being better, but more vulnerable due to his chin/mental issues). There are a whole slew of heavyweights from the past 2 decades would've beaten either of them, imo.

Prime Holyfield works them both over, btw.

 

Yep, The same way he worked over Moorer, Lewis, Bowe, Cooper, ....:shit:

Vitali beat up Hide in 2 rounds, and stopped him, outright. 10 count. No mess, no fuss, just stopped him.

Bowe got tagged repeatedly, was badly hurt on more than one occasion, a terrible, sloppy, mauling affair. Bowe was clearly fazed by Hide's movement and tenacity. Of course Bowe was tired, finished, not training, blah blah fucking blah fucking blah.

Bowe couldnt do a whole load with Larry Donald either. Vitali stopped Donald. The big right hand that Vitali broke through with in the 10th was a punch that Bowe seemingly couldn't land. Except in the press conference. Of course Bowe was tired, fat, hadn't trained, blah blah fucking blah. Donald, you will say, "was past it", but there he is, beating Holyfield, and doing OK with Valuev, many years after Vitali knocked him down and out.


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When you get right down to it, right down to the nitty gritty, guys like Vitali are doing very well with common opponents. His 10 days notice performance vs Lewis was more than impressive and he had Lewis hurt and going. Did Holyfield? Holyfield couldn't do anything with Vaughn Bean.....Vitali at least improved on that by beating the shit out of him. Both men lost to Byrd but Vitali won rounds. Did Oldyfield? Did he lead on the cards?

You can say Holyfield beats Vitali, and that's ok, it;s just an opinion, but Holyfield showed so many off nights in his career, so many nights when he got tired, got a hole in his heart, his steroids didn't work, he fell over, a prophet told him he would lose, he got Hep, he got dropped by a John Ruiz right.....fucks sake.

I can see Vitali get in there, establish his range, land his jab, land his weird shots and win a decision, a wide decision.

 

Cool story, bro.

 

I Don't think it's far fetched at all to say the Klitschkos would beat Holyfield :dunno:

 

Based as it is on Holyfields career tendency to have terrible off nights, it's not far fetched at all. If the unorthodoxy of Michael Moorer gave the guy fits then what is Vitali going to do?

Most people dont even realize how well Vitali has done vs common opponents of Bowe and Holyfield. Did Bowe even fight Lewis?

THe impression that Vitali just get's in there and gets blasted back out, is straight out of the Steve Kim Book of Boxing Fantasy.

Who the fuck is this "slew of heavyweights" who "work him over"???:dunno::dunno:

 

To and fro, to and fro,.. but Lennox Lewis is a certainty.

 

Vitali has no boxing skills. Any good fighter who can deal with size beats him. David Haye would make him look like a chump, and I would put down any amount of money on that. He quit against fucking Chris Byrd.

Wlad has no chin. Self-explanatory. He got knocked out by Corrie Sanders, a golfer who fought once every two years, Lamon Brewster, and ROSS PURRITY. He went life and death with DaVarryl Williamson and Samuel fucking Peter. His solution to his weakness: henceforth, fight like a bitch. You really think that means he's "good?" How would guys like that have fared as common opponents against Bowe, Holyfield, Lewis, et al?

How good the Klitschkos were at beating bums several years after they'd already been worked over by the elite of the division is irrelevant.

The following heavyweights have already beaten Vitali:
Lennox Lewis
Chris Byrd

The following heavyweights have already beaten Wlad:
Ross Purrity
Corrie Sanders
Lamon Brewster

I dunno about you, but I rank guys like Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Tommy Morrison, Razor Ruddock, Tim Witherspoon, Frank Bruno, David Tua et al in their primes ahead of Ross Purrity.

You talking about ridiculous shit like Larry Donald beating an old ass Holyfield who'd just been run through the grinder by James Toney really shows you for the nuthugger you are. It's gay to be on another fighter's nuts, bro. Cut that shit out.

 

Let's not be irrational. Vitali would have been long gone if he had "no boxing skills".

 

This guy is either on the windup, or is Dymipepel, in which case he is both on the windup, and on a wide range of prescription medication to boot.

Part of the problem here is that most people have a narrow, text-book definition of what constitutes boxing skills.....
....thats why I enjoyed Roy Jones commentary for the Danny Williams fight. He notes the good and the bad of Vitali, and points out how Vitali does these weird things that have great effect.

 

You're one of the most clueless individuals to stumble on this site in the last few years, my main man.

 

:laughing::laughing::Thumbs:

I can just see oil being forced down this guys throat....by this guy

 

Let me ask you this: if Vitali was a 5'7" welterweight, where do you think he'd be ranked at 147? Top 50?

Fixed

Really, what can I say in the face of such an eloquent rebuttal?

 

What about if he were a 400lb black woman with thalidomide arms?

 

Is being 5'7" and 147 lbs crippling? Do those physical attributes alone automatically disqualify you from being an elite level boxer?

 

No. Sorry. Dunno what I was thinking. That initial thought experiment of yours brought far more illume.