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Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by lb 4 lb, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    Let me be the first to start it since I was the biggest one and believed in Shane the most. I really thought he would dominate, but I guess Coto is the goods afterall. I'll have to wait til next week to really give my breakdown but all in all I admit I was wrong.

    I EAT MY CROW!

    If this isn't bad enough I also lost a sig beat I almost pulled out of and I owe somebody at work a case of beer. :doh:
     
  2. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

    I underestimated Cotto tonight,he's alot better than I thought he was great fight from both fighters.:clap:
     
  3. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Fight was way too close for anyone to eat crow. Unless you came in with an absurd prediction, like.... Floyd claiming easy fight for Shane who would score an early knockout.

    For what it's worth, I was dead wrong in believing Cotto would break down Shane early and eventually stop him late. I gave Shane almost no chance to win, be competitive but no chance of winning, yet I had it 1 pt shy of a draw.
     
  4. TysonFan4Ever

    TysonFan4Ever Leap-Amateur

    Eat it aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhahahaha!
     
  5. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I agree with Jake. It was pretty close.
     
  6. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Shane fought a tremendous fight here tonight. He is very respectful in winning to. :bears:
     
  7. Beyond the Grave

    Beyond the Grave Undisputed Champion

    Yes,very close fight I wasn't sure who was going to get the decision
     
  8. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    Yeah, that was me. I did that. I claimed an easy fight and to be honest I still can't believe it didn't happen that way.

    I eat crow. I take seconds. Hell give me the crow buffet.
     
  9. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

    It was a great fight by both guys....and they both showed different facets and made adjustments.

    No shame and there is no loser.

    I was wondering, however, just how little of Cotto Kellerman & co. have seen if they though that him moving and countering off the ropes was NEW.
     
  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    If anyone should eat crow, it should be Sly. Once again, as ALWAYS, he underestimated Shane. The same Shane Mosley who in Sly's mind woulda lost to Mamadou Thiam.:lol:
     
  11. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Honestly i didn't take your prediction seriously. Hes your hero so your gonna be biased. If Roy Jones fought Wlad tomorow i would pick him, even though i know he has no shot but to run around the ring and beg the judges for a decision.
     
  12. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    EXACTLY. He use to do that in his first 20 fights. Almost as if he was practicing just for a moment like this. Cotto use to always fight backwards. Also, when was Cotto down 5 times as manny said?
     
  13. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Cotto has underated skills. Alot of people think he is a limited 1 dimesional brawler. Truth is, he has good skills. An effective jab, an effective right hand, a huge left hook up and down, counterpunching ability and has underated defence. Add this to his determination and willingness to fight through adversity and he is damn hard to beat.
     
  14. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    The only KD if i remmeber was against Torres and that was a throwdown.
     
  15. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Thats the only one i remember and you are right it was a throwdown.

    And wasnt there a Knock Down in the First Barrera Morales fight?
     
  16. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    No, no. I deserve the abuse, I would have made this prediction if I liked Shane or not. I took alot of stock from the Callozo victory because he showed so much skills and reflexes, but it appears he didn't use none of that stuff tonight.

    Still I appreciate the mercy.
     
  17. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    HBO crew have problems..just because Cotto was boxing using the ring..."Something is wrong with Cotto, Mosley mosta hurt him with something in the last 20-30 seconds, cause he is going backwards"..or some bullshit...:rolleyes:..though a few seconds later Mosley did land something...
     
  18. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Well Cotto isn't Collazo. The same way that Shane isn't Zab Judah.
     
  19. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    So true. He didnt look hurt, he looked like he was running. I kept calling him a bitch. But then he started to land against the ropes like he did in his earlier fights and i let it slide.
     
  20. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Wasnt Collazo insured?
     
  21. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I hope he was insured.
     
  22. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Fair enough lb4lb, I have to say though - WHY did you think Mosley would KO him easily? And not think Cotto was the goods already?

    I know you've been saying this for ages.

    I thought it was pretty obvious Cotto was for real by now. Did you not see him brutally beat down Judah in his last fight? More impressively than anyone else, including Mayweather.

    I've thought Cotto was the goods since his 6th or 7th pro fight.
     
  23. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Looking forward to being wrong in my next fight,..

    ..............I'm picking FRAUD!! :crafty: HE HE HE HE HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!
     
  24. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    I think he was. After the loss he came in to the dressing room smiling. Everyone was asking him why he was so happy after the loss and he said something about saving a bunch of money on Geico.
     
  25. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    Because, I thought Shane's style was just better than Cotto's. Technicallly they shouldn't have matched up to a close fight. Shane allowed a smaller guys jab to beat him, used no defense and came in with the same plan that got Oscar beat against him. It was obvious his plan was to take Cotto out early as he must have figured Cotto was chinny.

    Also I didn't take much stock in Cotto beating Judah, and don't think it was much more impressive than Floyd beating him. Judah gave up in the Cotto fight in what the 1st or 2nd rd. Even though Judah gave Floyd hell, Floyd actually had to really earn it, because Judah didn't give up with Floyd until halfway into the fight.

    I already felt Cotto was the goods, but just that his style would lead to a defeat against Mosley.
     
  26. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Everyone seems to see a close fight. :dunno:

    Not me! Cotto won handily. I gave Shane no more than 4 rounds. He had alot of INeffective agression.
     
  27. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Why should I eat Crow?

    My prediction was CORRECT as is the usual case. Cotto won handily IMO.
     
  28. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

    Nah, bro, it's just that sometimes it's easy to confuse speed, movement and dazzling combos with skill.

    Shane has technical skill and is a formidable fighter, but at the end of the day he is OFFENSIVE minded, loves to trade, looks to land big shots, and has never had a stiff, hard jab.

    He also fights in bursts/spurts and likes to punch and clinch at times.

    Mosley was not looking to take Cotto out early. He was boxing the way he always does.

    And btw, he adjusted several times and went to the body just as well if not better than COtto, and actually dialed up a gear or two late.

    Shane fought as best he could....I just think you underrated Cotto.

    No shame at all.....we all get 'em wrong.

    Peace.
     
  29. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

    Are you serious?
     
  30. bigdawg

    bigdawg Undisputed Champion

    I'm here to eat my crow. Both cats fought like champions. In the words of Dennis Green "if you wonna crown their asses then crown their asses". Well I'm crowning Cotto. However I can see the fight being a draw and would love to see it again. Also could we possibly be in the mix for a DLH/Cotto fight on Cinco De Mayo? I'll Holla 5000
     

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