OVERRATED "Robberies"

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by REEDsART, Jul 27, 2007.

  1. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    List those Fights that Some or Many CLAIM to B "Robberies",that U just DON'T Agree w/...

    1 of the Most BLATANT Examples of this is Cassius Clay vs Doug Jones...EVERY Ali Hater CLINGS to him LOSING & "Getting a GIFT" Against Doug Jones,but if U WATCH that Fight, it's VERY Difficult to Give Jones MORE than 3-4 CLEAR Rounds...

    A CHILD Could Watch that Fight & Have Ali Winning 6 of 10 Rounds,yet the "Robbed" Myth PERSISTS...

    REED Can Think of ALOT More,but'll Let some of Ya'll List them...& YEP,Ali "Robbed" a Guy or 2 N his Career,but Doug Jones WASN'T 1 of them:nono: ...

    Just so we're CLEAR,a "Robbery" is when 1 Guy BEATS Another to the Degree that there's NO SENSIBLE Case to B Made for him Losing, yet he DOES...

    For Instance,Bernard-Taylor I DOESN'T Count as a "Robbery" to REED,Because Bernard GAVE AWAY Sooooooo Many of the Early Rounds...Sure,Bernard ARGUABLY Won the Fight,but U Could just as STRONGLY Present a Case for that Bout Being a DRAW or a Taylor VICTORY...

    Roy N Seoul '88 was a "Robbery"...Taylor-Hopkins I WAS NOT:nono: ...

    Overrated "Robberies",Ya'll...List em,Discuss em...

    REED:cool:
     
  2. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Definitely BOTH Taylor-Hopkins fights as well as Taylor-Winky.
     
  3. Registered

    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    There are people on here who won't give Jerbum Taylor any credit for beating Borenard twice when the guy gave away 6-7 rounds in each fight not throwing any punches.

    So I'd have to say these two fights jump up the list as being overrated in terms of robberies.
     
  4. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Fraud - Castillo 2,..

    Castillo gave away too many early rounds.
     
  5. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Do U Mean their 1st Fight???...

    The RE WASN"T Exciting,but it was DEFINITIVE...


    REED:dunno:
     
  6. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Floyd - Castillo 1

    People were brainwashed by Lederman's RIDICULOUS scorecard.

    Floyd won rounds 1-4,8,10 and 11..at the very least.
     
  7. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Depends on your definition of robbery. Any fight thats decided upon the final round, like Ford giving the 12th to Taylor, is a bonafide robbery and fix, as far as I'm concerned.
     
  8. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Then Pacquiao-Marquez was the worst robbery of all time...
     
  9. Tam Tam

    Tam Tam "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I don't remember how that was scored, but if you want to enlighten me, go right ahead.
     
  10. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

    ....

    A robbery to me is when I give a guy every benefit of the doubt and still have him losing. That pretty much disqualifies both Hopkins-Taylor fights.
     
  11. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    No. Fraud - Castillo 2,..:nono: OFCOURSE.

    :eeeek: Fraud - Castillo 1 was a DISGUSTING ROBBERY!!,.. hence the reason they rematched!!!,..

    anyway back to the original point,..:nono:

    :dunno: Castillo just idoled far too long before chasing him down and applying his superiority late, but by then he had allowed Fraud to literally run away with the fight. It's his own fault...that's why Fraud - Castillo 2 is an overrated "robbery".
     
  12. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Ali-Norton III

    Kenny did dominate....for 7 rounds. He won his rounds bigger than Ali won his, but a won round is a won round. And 8 shaded rounds will always beat 7 dominant rounds.


    Collazo-Hatton.
    Close fight, Hatton was the champ, and you have to BEAT the champ. Plus Hatton scored only KD which shaded it for him in the end. Collazo finished strong but thats not always enuff. As great as he looked in the 12th, he did lose the 11th, and they all count.

    Foreman-Briggs
    People combine Briggs own disbelief and their hero-worship of George to give themselves the impression that George won. He didn't. As bad as Briggs looked, the fact that a younger fitter man doesn't dominate the older fat guy doesn't mean that he didn't win. You can't strip a guy of the W just cos he didn't look as good as he was supposed to: and Briggs landed the cleaner shots and finished stronger. Just cos Briggs thought he fucked up doesn't count for shit. Like I said, a bad performance can still be a winning one, even if Briggs didn't grasp that.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2007
  13. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    I've never seen Toney-Tiberi.

    From every account i've heard/read Toney was given a "gift" to put it mildly.

    What's the story with that fight?
     
  14. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

    What exactly was Hatton champ of? :dunno: At 147, nothing.
     
  15. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    COLLAZO was the REIGNING Champ,DUMBASS...


    REED:clap:
     
  16. Registered

    Registered "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Taking left hands to the head.
     
  17. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

    lol:lol:
     
  18. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Damn....I actually thought it was vacant, as it happens, and what I meant was bigger name anyways. I thought the belt was vacant.
     
  19. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    It seem most so-called robberies aren't really robberies. People just like to call something a robbery when they don't agree with the decision, often when the fight is very close and can go either way.
     
  20. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Hatton has never been the face first mug you make him out to be...he is as big a brawler as pac, but has visited the mat less often.
     
  21. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    exactly......when they have an agenda that isn't met by the decision that is rendered
     
  22. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    NOPE...

    Collazo was the REIGNING Champ & YOU just SHITTED On YOURSELF when U Got High & Mighty Saying "U have to TAKE it from the Champ.":lol: ...Hatton Most Certainly DID NOT Do that,but REED is Sure U'll Now GLADLY Recant that Statement,since it DOESN'T Favor Little Ricky...

    No Go WIPE your Ass & Conjure Up some DAMAGE Control,Adolph...


    REED:clap:
     
  23. Erratic

    Erratic "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    DLH-Trinidad
    DLH-Whitaker
    DLH-Mosley 2
    Mayweather-Castillo 1
    Ali-Jones
    Taylor-Hopkins 1-2


    All overrated "robberies".

    Oh, and Jones-Tarver 1. People calling them a "robbery" or "highly controversial" is laughable. Tarver wasted so many rounds standing in the middle of the ring doing nothing, leary of Roy's bodywork, and being too damn patient.
     
  24. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    Hatton was Ring Champ.

    Hows dem apples, you girly forearmed and girly handed pussy??:dunno:
     
  25. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

    OC you fucked yourself for that statement, accept and admit defeat and return to fight another day
     
  26. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    REED Thinks DeLa-Tito WAS a "Robbery"...Honestly,DeLa DIDN'T NEED the Rounds that he Ran in...

    REED Watched that Fight LOATHING DeLa & PRAYING that Tito Beat him...But after the 12th Round,it was OBVIOUS to REED that DeLa had Won...

    agREED on all the Rest,Particularly DeLa-Whittaker...NOBODY Deserved to Win that Fight N REED's Opinion...When U Score a Bout a DRAW,it's NOT a "Robbery" Either Way...REED Scored that Fight EVEN...


    REED:cool:
     
  27. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    I already said I made a mistake.

    But Reed won't let it go.:dunno:

    And the irony of it is, that when Hatton splits Floyds vertebrae, Reed won't come back here for fear people will badger the shit out of him like when Jones got spread by Tarver.

    And he wonders why that is.......
     
  28. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Does this Mean YOU ACCEPT REED's Sig Bet CHALLENGE that YOU NEGLECTED to Respond 2???...

    N Addition to Pavlik-Taylor,let's Sig Bet Floyd-Hatton...Unless U're ALL TALK,as REED Suspects U R...

    REED:cool:

    ps. "you have to BEAT the Champ":laughing: :laughing:
     
  29. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    What Sig Bet, apart from Pavlik, did you request on?

    And fucko, I don't troll thru threads looking for challenges. PM someone if you want their attention.

    I already agreed to a Pavlik-Taylor sig bet.:dunno:
     
  30. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    REED COULDN'T Care Less about or For your Attention...It's your SIG that REED is Interested N...

    On the Thread STATING that Floyd & Hatton were just about Signed,REED Asked YOU if U were Interested N a Floyd-Hatton Sig Bet...Obviously,REED has Floyd & U have Casper...

    PUT Up,NUT Up or SHUT Up...U have Options...

    REED:cool:
     

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