The Fall of the House of Gracie

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  1. Anthony

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    Hat Tip to Sherdog for this story. It's a story many people dont know and thought it should be posted here as well. Again, this is from Sherdog.

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    The Build Up​

    Evening descends on August 28, 2002.
    Over 71,000 people gather at the Tokyo National Stadium to see the greatest Mixed Martial Arts card of the time.
    A MMA record that still stands untouched to this day by tens of thousands.​


    Combat sport super powers PRIDE and K-1 had put aside their differences, in the spirit of the sport, to put on a co-promoted event for the ages. Originally planned as a one-off Super Event, it was billed in Japan simply and appropriately as: Dynamite!

    Featuring the top global stars from around the world, it was made up of various matches under Pride, K1, and grappling rules. The elite fighters from around the world included Kazushi Sakuraba, Royce Gracie, Hidehiko Yoshida, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Bob Sapp, Mirko CroCop, Wanderlei Silva, Ernesto Hoost, Semmy Schilt, and Jerome Le Banner.

    Starting off with a blistering 76 second violent head-kick-and-punches stoppage at the hands (and feet) of the emerging Brazilian superstar Wanderlei Silva, the night was turning out to be all that was expected.

    Later, in arguably one of the single greatest comeback victories in sporting history, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira is able to survive a horrific beating at the hands of 350lbs mega-star Bob Sapp, and get a miracle submission.

    Which lead into the super-fight carrying the honour of two countries, two martial arts, and two champions.

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    The Fight​


    Royce Gracie was the crown gem that PRIDE had stolen away from their North American cage-fighting rival UFC.
    As such, the entire Gracie family was given extreme royalties, requests, and demands, which usually consisted of certain rules and time limits as they wanted.

    Hidehiko Yoshida was Japan's beloved combat champion. Ruling over one of their national level sports, he was a multiple gold-medal Judo champion across Asia, World, and Olympic levels.

    Gracie, considering his and Yoshida's strengths and weaknesses, demands the fight be under custom BJJ rules to suit him:
    -His Judoka opponent would not be allowed any of Judo's signature throws and slams.
    -No strikes were to be allowed when Royce pulled guard and took the fight to the mat.

    Despite the tilted table, Yoshida accepts, and the fight takes place.

    Both choosing to fight wearing their respective traditional grappling Gi's, most of the first round consists of Yoshida looking out of place by not being allowed to throw or slam his smaller opponent, Gracie pulling guard, and positional jockeying while Gracie concentrated on leg locks.

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    Midway through the 10 minute first round, Yoshida finds a way to get around the no-Judo rules.
    This is the turning point of the match, and the end of Royce Gracie being considered a top level combatant in MMA.

    With 4:14 left in Round 1, after Gracie pulled guard, Yoshida grabs his collars and picks him up off the ground, slamming him down hard.

    Caught off guard by this, Gracie is forced to finally stop attacking, and defends by grabbing Yoshida's collar and pant leg to avoid any more slams. After some brief Gi control, Yoshida ends up passing to half guard.

    With Yoshida beginning to work for a kimura, Royce is forced to go on the defensive and gets distracted, leading to Hidehiko then going for the finish.

    Quickly and silently adjusting the right sleeve of his gi to give him more slack, Yoshida transitions from the feint kimura to a crushing Judo Gi-choke, the Ezekiel Choke. Using both of his own wrist collars, Yoshida uses his weight and leverage to scissor his gi and forearms across Gracie's throat, a quick and devastating choke.

    It's fully locked in within 5 seconds of the switch.
    5 seconds later, Gracie's arms go limp, feet stop struggling, and body goes still.
    5 seconds after that, Yoshida yells to the ref that Royce is unconscious.
    15 seconds from start to finish, the referee stops the fight due to technical submission.

    The world renowned grappling champion Royce Gracie had been submitted.
    On the biggest stage in the world, in front of 71,000 people, with his family at ring side.
    Brazilian JiuJitsu had been defeated by Judo. Choked out cold no less, by a Gi.

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    The Aftermath​


    One of Hidehiko Yoshida's greatest moments lasted under 10 seconds.

    Outraged at the result, the entire Gracie family stormed the ring. Surrounding and picking up Royce, they began to carry him around and hold his arm up in victory, somehow claiming that Yoshida never won because Royce didn't tap.

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    Chaos ensued, Royce dragged Yoshida by the gi over to the ropes in front of the judges table, demanding he tell them that he was never submitted.
    After the Gracie's futile protest, Royce quickly stormed out of the ring, Helio and the rest of the family not far behind.
    Later backstage, the Gracie's demand it be turned into a No Contest, and an immediate rematch be booked (with different rules for the next time).
    If not, the Gracie family would pull themselves from Pride FC, and never fight for them again.

    Pride, desperate to keep the Gracie family with them, accepted their demands, the fight was turned into a No Contest, and a lack-lustre rematch and Draw resulted a year later.

    Royce Gracie's career fades out, managing only 4 matches more, with only two wins.
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    And thus the story lay still to this day.
    Forgotten in time, scratched from records, and erased from FightFinder.
    A bard's song, of the fall of the house of Gracie.
     
  2. TLC

    TLC "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    What shitty ass people. Fuck them.
     
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    Not remotely surprised at this story. I've always hated Royce and all the Gracies, he/they always seemed like a bunch of total cocks.
     
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    Now I'm glad/can see why Roger lives in England and doesn't really associate with these pricks.
     
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    Although actually, as much of a cunt as Royce always seemed, and all the Gracie's, this story is still surprising and fucked up.

    For starters, the rules sound like a joke, I can't believe they were requested and accepted. No judo and no strikes on the ground :lol:

    Against all odds, Yoshida wins, and the Gracies can't accept defeat even though he was choked out cold? And Pride changes getting choked out cold to a NC?? WTF.

    What a bunch of hideous cunts.
     
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    Gracies always had the rules in their favour.
     
  7. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Man that's about as poorly as a person/family can lose. Shameful.
     
  8. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Pride had all kinds of strange rules fights. I think they just did what ever they wanted to benifit who they wanted to win. Pride was super shady. Fun to watch though.
     
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    Surely you can say the same for the early UFC's. They had the rules set up for the Gracies.
     
  10. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    What rules? There were none.
     
  11. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    No, but RJ is right. The first UFC's were built for Gracie to win.
     
  12. Gh77

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    This isn't really rule related, but I do know that the Gracies knew full well who would be fighting in the early UFCs against Royce, but none of the other fighters had a clue who they were going up against. The Gracies supposedly kept guys out of the UFC to make sure Royce would win.
     
  13. TLC

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    I think a lot of dudes could've beaten Royce to be honest.

    There were no Judoka, no really skilled kickboxers.

    Most of the dudes were bums.
     
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    -Judoka opponent would not be allowed any of Judo's signature throws and slams.

    -No strikes were to be allowed when Royce pulled guard and took the fight to the mat.



    That's pretty absurd. That amounts to an exibition and not a real competitive contest.
     
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    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    damn, i knew about the ending where gracie was choked out and it was later resulted in a nc, but had no clue about the built up and those ridiculous rules.
     
  16. Anthony

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    Not really anything to do with rules tho. The UFC was basically created by the Gracies to showcase their style, so of course they came out looking good. But it got bigger than the Gracies.
     
  17. Trplsec

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    I'm still curious about the rules that the UFC put in place in the early days to favor Gracie. As TLC said, they paired him against shitty, hand-picked opponents. But to be honest, I thought the rules were far more wide open and not limited to Gracie's benefit.

    What's an example of a special rule for Gracie? Just curious....
     
  18. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Exactly.. I am trying hard to remember a specific rule that worked for Gracie. I honestly can't think of any. There were so few rules in the early days.
     
  19. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Agreed.
     
  20. steve_dave

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    Right. It's just that the deck was stacked in his favour.
     
  21. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Site the rules that favored the Gracies then.

    It had nothign to do with the rules. The UFC was created to showcase Gracie Jiu Jitsu, I won't argue this, but it's not like they tweaked the rules every other fight like Pride did.
     
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    Z, please learn to read. Bless you.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    To be clear, this was in PRIDE. There were no crazy rules like this in the UFC. No matter what RJJ or Steve_Dave tell ya.
     
  24. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Clearly you did not read my post before you agreed with RJJ. I was talking about Pride having a bunch fo strange rules fights, and he said "Can't you say the same about the UFC" and the answer to that is NO, you cannot.

    Now admit that you were wrong and never again agree with RJJ.
     
  25. steve_dave

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    He was right from the perspective that, like in Pride, the deck was stacked in his favour in the early UFCs. Unlike some, I can see through words and understand the point he was making. :dunno:
     
  26. steve_dave

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    You're struggling today, Z.
     
  27. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That's not what I said though. Try actually reading what I wrote. It will all be clear to you.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No, you stuggle to admit when you're wrong. You have quite the ego.
     
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    Can you please look at post #19 and post #20, both from before you entered the thread, and then apologize. Thanks, Z.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    #19 was a very nice contadiction to the post where you agreed with RJJ. I'll take that as an appology. Thanks.
     

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