Black fighters are taking over 205

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  1. BOSS

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    And they're kicking some Brazilian ass while they're at it..

    Jon Jones (Shogun)
    Rashad (Thiago )
    Rampage (Lyoto)
    Phil Davis (Lil Nog)
     
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    And NEWBRASKI is a black dude that just won the prediction contest! 2011 viva la black man
     
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    Nah. Wrestlers are taking over the sport. Period.
     
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    Lol. Time to put on the singlet!
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Yep, that certainly seems to be the current trend.
     
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    This is good for the UFC. They now have more credibility.:stir:
     
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    Yeah, Rampage really whooped Machida's ass in that fight.
     
  8. TLC

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    There's as many wrestlers now as there always has been, I don't really get that notion.
     
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    Big difference. Before they were JUST wrestlers. Now they are top notch wrestlers who understand BJJ very well and have good striking games.
     
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    Basically yeah. They are now well rounded wrestlers who have also adapted their wrestling more to MMA.

    MMA has definitely gone in stages.

    To start with it was the BJJ era, then striking started to take over, once they got decent submission defense and TD defense etc, the better strikers started to dominate the guys who had awful striking.

    Striking is still prominent, but wrestling is really taking over.

    Right now it seems if you're an exceptionally good wrestler you only need a half decent grounding in other facets to be a top fighter.

    And if you're wrestling is crap, you're not going to be a top fighter, simple as that.

    GSP's supreme dominance is really since he turned into more of a wrestler, but he's obviously VERY well rounded.
     
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    I'd say the Brazilians like Jacare, Lyoto, Shogun, Anderson, and Jose Aldo are just decent at wrestling.


    Even American guys like Carlos Condit, Frank Mir, Forrest Griffin, Rampage to an extent, Nate Marquardt, BJ Penn, Nick Diaz, Mike Pyle, Mike McDonald and Miguel Torres have decent wrestling and nothing more.


    That and there's a fine line between calling a guy a wrestler and not.

    Guys like Dominick Cruz have limited wrestling bases(pretty good wrestler in HS but not much there) and spend the majority of their fight time on the feet still get labeled as wrestlers.

    Even a Karate guy like GSp is now labeled a wrestler. His wrestling is great, but he didn't come from that background and usually I think his fight approach is heavily dependent on the guy he's fighting. He usually just fights where his opponent is weakest.
     
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    Yep, which is the smart thing to do, but don't forget he outwrestled Koscheck in the first fight. That was impressive.

    Also, GSP is not a Karate guy. Despite the little headband etc, nothing about GSP's style has ever been Karate, it just happens to be his first MA.
     
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  15. TLC

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    A lot of the way GSP strikes is based off his karate background. The range in which he fights at, the kicks he throws.

    Especially earlier versions of GSP Now he's doing a lot of boxing with it.
     
  16. steve_dave

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    There was actually a short wrestling dominated era, in the UFC anyway, between the BJJ and striking eras.
     
  17. Bob N Weave

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    It's no secret that Wrestling is the most important discipline in the game.
     
  18. TLC

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    Grappling as a whole is more important.

    If you just subdivide it into wrestling like many people tend to do then there is no plausible explanation for guys like Jake Rosholt.
     
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  19. Bob N Weave

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    Tend to due? "Than" you get?? Wow.

    Kinda ruined the whole post for me. None of it really makes sense.
     
  20. TLC

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    WTF?! :lol:

    That was without exaggeration, the worst post I've posted on the internet in years.
     
  21. D MAN

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    Yep. Coleman - Kerr era
     
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    Exactly what keeps King Mo relevant.
     
  23. Bob N Weave

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    Nah, Mo was exposed.
     

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