Brandon Rios-Marco Antonio Barrera possible for the fall

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  1. Mitchell Kane

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    Not a mythical match-up, and not one I really want to see MAB in at this stage, but that fight's a Top Rank goal for later this year according to Lem Satterfield of BoxingScene.

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    Barrera said back in February that he was looking at fighting the winner of Rios-Acosta...as well as saying he's going to retire in December for "health reasons".

    Rios is a weird opponent for a guy talking about retirement and health to be fighting.

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    Prime Barrera would have whooped his ass! This version im not so sure anymore.
     
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    Hard to say. Barrera was not at all out-classed by the much bigger Amir Khan when they fought, and had Khan shying away from the body-shots he threw. He will find Rios a much easier target to nail and entice into a war. Rios is probably too fresh and too big to be worn down but he doesn't strike me as the "smartest" fighter- in or out of the ring.
     
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    Prime Barrera was 13 pounds lighter then Rios (and that's not including the re-hydration)
     
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    135 is loaded and Arum feeds Barrera to Rios.
     
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    So you think Barrera's strategy will be to entice Rios into a war?
     
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    Ohhh for some reason the first time I read the title as Brandon Rios vs. Marcos Maidana...I got a bit moist...

    Rios vs. Barrera...:scratcher: WHERE IS the god damn pile of SHIT SMILEY?????
     
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    Rios would HURT Barrera badly.
     
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    Somewhere Prince Naseem is smiling.
     
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    Yes- a war which Barrera then does his very utmost to not engage in.

    Start something, flurry, let Lampley orgasm, then get out and make it look like Rios is being outsmarted by an older opponent
     
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    Brandon is fighting Juan Diaz in July.

    I spoke with Diaz and Mr. Savannah about it Saturday.

    Karl
     
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    WOW...


    Diaz team really want him have severe brain damage before he is able to use that college education he is receiving.
     
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    Beating Juan and MAB should make Rios a bigger star then hopefully Bob can have him fight the legit contenders at 135.
     
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    :lol:

    Nice save.
     
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    I was stunned to see Diaz so trim this past Saturday, and that is when Mr. Savannah told me their plans to fight Brandon.

    Rios reminds me a bit of the Diaz of 5 years ago the way he gets in there after it, but he is a very solid puncher.

    Diaz married late last year and has a kid and a construction business, in addition to starting law school down the road; so he needs a big payday, and I'm thinking he makes around a half mil for this fight.

    Rios is all wrong for him now, and I can see him really giving it to Diaz after being hit a lot early on.
     
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    rios-diaz :bears:

    rios will bash that chumps head in, and i will laugh uproariously. fuck diaz and fuck hegman.
     
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    Not quite. Barrera is going to have to make Rios think its a war while he, Barrera, does as little as possible to get involved.

    Sort of like how Ray Leonard dealt with Duran the second time around.

    Duran thought they were picking up where they left off. Wrong.
     
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    Good point. I didnt think about that. :scratcher:
     
  20. Mitchell Kane

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    Meaning what? If he doesn't, Rios is going to get on his toes and fight like Acosta?
     
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    barrera is getting ran over, regardless of the strategy he employs
     
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    Make Rios think that he has to destroy and overwhelm an "old" Barrera. Make Rios fight and look like the dumb brick that he really is. Make Rios think he has to win every exchange, finish every round stronger, win every minute. In the meantime Barrera is going to have to be smart, economical and savvy. He's the smarter fighter and he better make it count.
     
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    You've gone from Barrera enticing Rios into a war and possibly wearing him down, to boxing smart and economically.
     
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    I didn't know a statement made to me by a gym owner last weekend would illicit such a hateful response from this little feller.

    Sounds like he (or she) has some anger management issues and are trying to drag my screen name into their personal problems.

    I personally could care less who wins the damn fight, but if you really feel that strongly about it; you may want to speak with the fighter's management team about that.
     
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    I will be surprised if a commission gives the green light for this fight to take place.
     
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    Not at all.

    Barrera needs to get Rios to take the bait. He can't do that if he starts the fight economical, Rios will merely match him and then impose his size and youth.

    Instead he is going to have to be like a Matador with a Bull.

    He is going to have to make Rios keep fighting dumb and to do that he is going to have to go in the trenches every now and then.

    He must get Rios to keep fighting and throwing as if he needs to win every minute of every round.

    He must make Rios feel that Rios HAS to KO Barrera.

    That process might even begin as early as the buildup, press conferences etc.

    A bit like when Barrera fought Hamed, he fought in such a fashion as a degree of desperation crept into Hameds work. Despite the fact that the fight was pretty close, almost even after 6 rounds, Hamed fought like a guy who needed a KO. Barrera would tweak his nose, flurry, and then allow Hamed to swing and miss down the stretch.
     
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    Aside from the Peterson DQ, Rios has a stretch of KO's going back a few years.

    He fights looking for the knockout.

    Barrera is 37, soft for the division, and ten years removed from Hamed.
     
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    Yes, I accept that, I am just trying to express a strategy which can give Barrera a chance. Its worth nothing that Rios is not an especially smart fighter. Peterson was, pugilistically speaking, a veritable panic-tard, and the last guy Rios fought tried too hard to out-balls Rios.

    Barrera may have benefitted slightly from the hiatus, and he did not look over-awed by Khan either, though Rios is a harder man than Khan.

    The thing about Khan is that he deliberately entertained a policy of leap-amateurism and running, which Barrera found hard to deal with.

    If Khan had of tried to walk Barrera down, he would have been KO'd to the body. Everytime Barrera landed to the body that night, Khan got on his bike.

    With Rios, Barrera doesn't have that problem.
     
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    You've given your opinion of his intelligence numerous times already in this thead.

    That you felt the need to state it again doesn't say much for your perception of subtlety.

    Khan and Rios are not stylistically similar.
     
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    Rios? Subtlety? I'll give Rios subtlety when Rios earns subtlety.

    As for Khan and Rios not being stylistically similar, well, yeah, that was kind of my point, a point I think I made by saying that, well, they weren't stylistically similar.
     

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