Ghevor-Stieglitz

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Azazel, Apr 9, 2011.

  1. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Were the fuck are you El Terrible ??? Give us a recap of the fight, the ending seems crazy ( Ghevor getting dq'ed after him and Stieglitz wrestled and fell to the ground, and then Ghevor throwing punches at the ref ater the dq ).
     
    Last edited: Apr 9, 2011
  2. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    No spoiler warning???
     
  3. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Why should there be ??? As far as I know, it's not shown anywhere on tape delay and even so, the name of the topic, and the fact it was made after the fight, are pretty good clue imo. Maybe a mod should put a spoiler alert
     
  4. ElTerriblee

    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I gave a link in TAAA to watch the fight live.

    Well Gevor was disqualified.

    He threw Stieglitz to the ground a round earlier and punched him in the back of the head, while Stieglitz was down. In the next round Gevor was leading with his head, which resulted in an accidental headbutt (small cut). Transition into a clinch, and Gevor brought Stieglitz down again. Then he was disqualified.

    Germany can never end fights in a normal way. Refs have no control over the situation in or outside the ring. Then Gevor started punching people. Not sure whether he hit the referee, some other official or just some entourage.
     
  5. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Who was winning untill then ?? So it seems the dq was justified, and did Ghevor leveled some officials or did none of his punches landed ???
     
  6. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    What? German events are usually most civil.

    Look at this nonsense.

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  7. ElTerriblee

    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Stieglitz was leading by at least 3-4 points at the time.

    After the 9th I had it 87-84 Stieglitz.

    On all the official cards Stieglitz was up 89-82.

    I think the DQ was for the headbutt/throwdown combo, which didn´t seem intentional to me. Other referees might have given a point deduction and let the fight continue. If Stieglitz was unfit to continue due to the accidental headbutt they could have gone to the scorecards.

    All in all Gevor set himself up for trouble with his actions in the previous rounds. He´s a bit of a whiner in general and had already made his mind up before the fight that he would get robbed, so he did everything he could to achieve that.
     
  8. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Its a tough one for our American brothers and sisters. Do we say that these Germans are animals, or that the kid did what he had to do to stop from being robbed??
     
  9. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Must say that after watching the highlights, I clearly disagree El Terrible. The headbutt was clearly unintentionnal and it was Stieglitz who clinched him, Ghevor tired to push him off and Stieglitz fell down. Bullshit call imo, will only make holding more prevalent in boxing.
     
  10. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    BTW, the ref reaction was pretty impressive. Reacted camly to being attacked
     
  11. ElTerriblee

    ElTerriblee "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I never said any of these things, so you can fuck off with your German controversy bullshit, especially if you haven´t seen the whole fight. Maybe it´s time you get over Lucas/Beyer.

    Gevor is not winning the fight any fuckin way. He either loses by DQ, by technical decision or by unanimous decision. The asshole can fuck off for the racist comment/s he made the next day. Go back whereever he came from and make his living there. He wasn´t robbed against Konecny, against Sturm, against Abrahaam, against Sartison or against Stieglitz.
     
  12. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    You did say that the headbutt was intentionnal, my mistake here, but you claimed Ghevor took down Stieglitz wich isn't the case imo.

    Btw, I'm not one who tries to claim that Germany is the most corrupt place to fight, so I don't know what's with the Lucas-Beyer reference. Yes I felt it was a bad call ( and I'm far from a Lucas fan ), but it was less worst than Lucas being even with Catley on the scorecard before he was koed in their first fight. And I alway's claimed Bute-Andrande I was an outrageous call, so it's not like I'm claiming it's any better here.

    Anyway, I'm not here to get into a pissing match with disrespectfull pos who resort to insults when somenone disagree with them. So I'll leave it at that.
     

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