Ray Leonard vs. Roberto Duran II @ 154

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  1. Dog Jones

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    Duran cuts less weight this time for an immediate re-match.
     
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    That would surely advantage Leonard. How about the exact same two guys in an 18 rather than 24 foot clown ring? Answer Duran UD 15 again.

    Down with clown rings.
     
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    Leonard without question.
     
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    When theres millions of dollars at stake, your reputation, your title, your self-respect...Im sorry, but if you can acknowledge these things are on the line and still cant get your house in order taking care of yourself, youve bigger problems than ringsize. You truly do.
     
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    24 foot clown ring! Then Leonard ran round every inch of it, shamelessly. The whole thing is disgusting. I'd have quit too, it wasn't a fight, it was a farce. The biggest stink job in all of boxing history.
     
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    When Leonard gave up with the mach bullshit and started to box again, he was dfferent class to Duran. Leonard by late TKO
     
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    Excellent point Hut.
     
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    When Duran was properly trained and motivated, in a normal sized ring, he proved to be a different class to Leonard. Despite being 2 weight divisions smaller.
     
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    I just deleted it. Im beating a dead horse. But lets pretend it was so clever and insightful that it ends the debate for ever.

    Duran wins, the end.
     
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    You're right, arguing with blind haters is pointless.

    They either don't see sense, or pretend not to.

    Anyway, Duran KO 1.
     
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    different class???

    It was a 4-3 fight when Duran inexplicably quit

    The shame of it is not just that he quit, but that he quit in a competetive, winnable fight... 24 foot clown ring and all

    If you want to say bravo to SRL for executing his gameplan well, than by all means, have at it... but to say that he was in "a different class" or that the fight was one-sided is nuts
     
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    Stop reasoning, this is about religions! :shadow:
     
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    DOORAN DOORAN DOORAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    It's important to point out that they fought more than twice. 2-1 Leonard, fags.
     
  18. Hut*Hut

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    Choose stink

    Choose quick fire fights against guys busy coking

    Choose a big clown tardis ring thats bigger than most homes

    Choose a career then achieve greatness in it by avoiding participating in it at all costs

    Choose running for your life

    Choose sticking out your tongue and wiggling your hips in substitution for getting anything done

    Choose 4-3 farce matches where nothing happens that get mythologized as boxing masterclasses

    Choose stink :shit:
     
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    this does drive me batshit, the idea that Leonard was dominating
     
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    Oh man, as you may have noticed the whole fight drives me quite batshit.:sream:

    I repeat again - Leonard could not have successfully pursued that strategy in an 18 or 20 foot ring. Watch for every time he backs away from Duran and his back comes anywhere near the ropes & he escapes. Thats an instance when he had to engage Duran in Montreal but didn't have to in New Orleans.

    Being generous and using around ONE foot as the measure rather than 4 or 6, In the first 60s of round 8 alone I count:

    this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBWwtJvJyM&t=0m38s

    this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBWwtJvJyM&t=0m46s

    this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBWwtJvJyM&t=0m55s

    this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBWwtJvJyM&t=1m07s

    etc

    I can't be bothered going on & Im sure nobody can be bothered seeing any more. That's 4 moments in 60s where Duran would have been able to engage Leonard in a regulation sized ring but wasn't able to in a clown ring. 4 moments when Leonard avoided an exchange and those moments are replicated throughout the fight to the point where the rounds became 3,4, 5 scuffled exchanges that Duran had to bull rush and reach for to initiate. And THAT'S the difference between the patterns of the two fights. Just clown rings and eggy stink. Duran being as puffy as a 12 year olds nipple didn't help matters but it wasn't the fundamental change between the fights and neither was Leonards 'masterful tactical change blah blah vomit'
     
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    Hut, "clown ring" is one of my favorite terms ever... it's a beauty, well done
     
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    Did you watch the short wee links? Just watch the first 7, 8 seconds of each. See what I mean?
     
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    preaching to the choir, Taig:bears:
     
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