Which all things considered started in about 1990 for most major sports. Magic Johnson was making a million dollars per year while he was around and he was the big shit in terms of NBA contracts.
I just assumed that the coaches weren't working for free? Is it not like boxing where they receive either a percentage of the purse or a flat fee?
They are called sponsors for a reason. These guys have training all set up for them. In return, they promote their product on their shorts, banners, T-shirts, Hats, and thank you's durring and after the fight.
I get where you are coming from. I really do. But if a guy works his ass off every day and studies, and goes to a great college and gets his degree, he has transferable skills because he WORKED for them. Anyone training to be an athlete instead of a scholar knows the inherent risk of mastering a trade with zero transferable skills. But just because they NEED to make a certain amount of money, doesn't mean they will. It's just the gamble these guys signed up for.
Sounds good if it's true. I have never heard of sponsors paying gym cuts, manager fees, and trainer percentages though. I thought they just provided clothing, maybe training equipment, and some sort of money to promote their products.
Huge profits compared to WHO? You know why HBO is able to pay guys laughably overpriced 1 million dollar salaries to nobodies? Because the fat white dude signing their checks is rolling in so much money, that boxing literally might just be another toy for him. HBO is owned by Time Warner, a huge entertainment CONGLOMERATE(you are a smart guy, so not directed towards you particularly, but if you don't know what exactly the word is, look it up). The worth of Time Warner is over 145 billion dollars...exactly 145 billion times the worth of than ZUFFA. And ZUFFA's numbers are actually probably exaggerated and plenty of financial sources have stated that whoever would buy ZUFFA would be taking a substantial amount of debt. People seriously overstate ZUFFA's market power. MMA in it's current form has been around for what, 10 years? It's still a complete baby.
What's the difference? The owners, whether that's the owner of the UFC or the Detroit Tigers, take in the profits and pay the players/fighters. In baseball, for example, the owners used to hoard the money and pay the players an unfair fraction of the profits. I know you're pretty stupid, but this isn't hard to grasp at all. Obviously, at some point, the top fighters are going to demand more. One day, the fighters are either going to get a larger percentage of the profits from the UFC, or they'll take their show on the road... whether that's another organization, or whether that's an elite fighter with a huge name promoting his own shows is unknown at this point.
Hard to compare it to anyone seeing as they have no competition. Was more of a response to the post that Zuffa couldn't pay their fighters more because of all of the costs involved with promoting an event each month. Some posts here make it sound as if they're a local small town outfit barely getting by. If this last event did even just a paltry 250k PPV buys then that is over 12 million in PPV revenue. Forbes magazine lists their worth at approximately 1 billion dollars. Considering they are a private company that number is mostly speculative, but come on, 32k for a main event fighter, 15k for Roy Nelson from possibly a billion dollar company that probably did at least 12 million just in PPV sales?
1 billion is shit compared to NFL, Time Warner, etc. These guys are paying their fighters relative to their income. Once they get up to 100 billion dollars and are still paying 15k, maybe then it'd be appropriate to bitch about.
just so you guys know, Dana offered Hamil 100k for the fight, but Hamil didn't hear him..... :hammert:
Assuming a very conservative 250k PPV buys estimate, 15k is .001% of just the PPV revenue for this card. This doesn't even include the money at the gate or the rights that multiple television networks around the World will no doubt be paying to re-air the broadcast or the sponsorship revenue. It's ridiculous.
Nelson is damn lucky to get 15k and Hamil making 32k. Overpaid if you ask me. UFC does a great job looking after it's fighters.
Ten thousand of Nelson's earnings are going into the UFC pension fund so he's taken care of later on.
Must be hard being Dana White sleeping out in the cold just so that his fighters can have huge salaries and enjoy the finer things in life. Dana might not of even been paid for UFC 130, given the huge salary payout.
artie: I think you were the only one who enjoyed that, bunch of stuck up elitists on this damn board!
exactly, if you can't enjoy a good joke aimed at the disabled, you really aren't even American in my book.
I absolutely love 128 the main event being Jones/Rua. The casual fan may not have liked GSP/Shields in 129 but I must admit, I enjoyed it. Was very suprised at how much Shields had improved in the striking. Wasn't a big fan of the outcome as far as a draw with Penn/Fitch, but I love watching Penn fight. The guy is a master of strategy and had Fitch all twisted up. Rampage Hamil was definitely the worst out of anything recent though.
You refer to me as stupid yet can't see the difference between a league with 28-32 different owners vying for talent compared to one organization paying the talent. I know you're Canadian with some backwoods type education that wouldn't qualify you to flip burgers here, so I will break it down simple enough for a 2nd grader to understand (That's 2nd grade US or College Freshman in Canada) In the NFL, if you are a free agent RB you could literally have 32 different teams offering you a contract to play for their team. This gives you leverage to exact a bigger salary. The NFL or 'the league" doesn't pay a player ANYTHING. Now try to keep up. In the UFC, there is one owner paying all the talent. So in the UFC, using your analogy, 'the league' pays the athletes. Again, that is COMPLETELY different then the NFL, MLB or NBA. Understand?????? And yes, at some point maybe the top fighters do refuse to fight unless they're paid more. But what has typically happened is they leave the UFC; make less than peanuts somewhere else; and then beg to get back into the UFC. If the majority of the top fighters organized and collectively refused to fight then they would have decent negotiating power. Personally I think that would end up damaging the sport as it would become more like boxing wherein more big fights aren't made. Seriously, this isn't complicated. Your analogy was moronic. Period.
Ding ding ding ding ding. We have a winner! It's going to happen eventually, like it has in every sport in America. This isn't about what you want, what I want or what's good for the sport. It's the reality. The only way it won't happen is if the sport is a fad and the popularity wanes. If it keeps getting bigger and bigger? It'll either be a cage fighters union or boxing style shows.
