Fighter you dislike for a good reason/bad reason

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  1. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    There's numerous reasons to dislike a fighter, and some are better than others. List 2 fighter you dislike , one for a good reason, and one for a bad reason.


    I'll start


    Good reasons: Wlad klitchko. Was a big fan of him when he was coming up, but have done a 180 on him since he proved that he's weak mentally, and gives us stinker after stinker, even while he has all the tools to be electrfiying.


    Bad reasons : Kosta Tzsyu . While he was a good fighter, usually entertaining, had a humble likeable personality, and there's few thing you can blame him for (except for his refusal to gives rematch (Phillips, Judah), and his last fight quit job , wich isn't such a deal imo), I always found myself rooting against him. I think it was mostly due to his annoying australian fans that were overating him big time, and acting like he was one of theyr own, while he was a pure Soviet union product.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Floyd - There is nothing I hate more in boxing than a fighter who doesn't live up to his potential. I have more respect for a fighter who tries and fails than one who doesn't try at all. I don't want to hear any stupid arguments from Floyd fans on this, even they know he could have done more.

    Brandon Rios - Exciting fighter, I just can't like him, ever since the making fun of Roach video, only a punk would do that and he's associated with Margarito.

    Not sure which one of these is for good reason or bad reason really. You decide.
     
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    Good reason (probably debatable :dunno:) - Abner Mares - My new least favorite fighter. Sure, Russell Mora was incompetent, but Mares obviously took advantage of that.....or had prior knowledge the ref was going to be in his pocket, because anybody who tells me all those low blows were accidental is completely full of shit. In case anybody noticed, Mares also gave the same song and dance about the low blows after the fight that Mora gave..........but somehow Mares is getting a pass in all of this. Shit, who had a better vantage point of where his punches were going then Mares himself.

    I read an article. Somebody sat down and watched the fight frame by frame and counted 55 low blows. :pathetic:



    Bad Reason - Oscar De La Hoya - I never really figured out why I dislike Oscar so much. I've never rooted for him in a single fight........not even against Floyd. I don't know why either. He fought just about everybody he was supposed to fight and others he didn't have to, even if he didn't participate in as many rematches as he should have. He was skilled and had a fairly entertaining style (outside of the last few rounds of the Trinidad fight).

    Just can't put my finger on it............I've never liked the guy.
     
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    Good reason -

    Eubank. His unfriendly demeanour and nasty arrogance without the tongue in cheek.

    Bad Reason -

    Larry Holmes for butchering Muhammad Ali.
     
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    good reason - RJJ. Just an arrogant fuck who played hookie on fighting tough fights for a long while. My heart sings just a little bit more every time he gets KO'd by some scrub, he's deion Sanders without a nutsack, which to me is ridiculous

    bad reason - Paul Malignaggi. He looks like a goomba d-bag.
     
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    Good reason: Floyd Mayweather

    Bad reason: um.....Antonio Tarver. Just think the guys a heavy fan dan.
     
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    good reason: RJJ... the most physically gifted fighter I have seen, but he was content to coast on it for a good portion of his career and I hated his personality... Arrogant without being funny, a terrible combo... Ali was arrogant but even if you didn't like him or root for him, he made you giggle sometimes... I also didn't care for ROy's style, it worked brilliantly for him but it has influenced a generation of fighters with nowhere near the same spectacular gifts... instead of looking commanding, these guys look scared and gutless... all that said, I do think Roy was a great fighter at his best

    bad reason: Pazienza... primarily because I really dislike Guidos, steroids and orange skin with carefully plucked eyebrows... "After you fight me, you'll have to go back to watching Rocky movies with your dad" - Greg Haugen, prior to their first bout
     
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    :lol::lol::lol: Paul is pretty close to acting like a goomba d-bag, in addition to looking like one. I'd say you're in the right on this one.

    Good reason:

    PBF - his attempt to pussy-foot around the welterweight division and still act like he's the best

    Bad reason:

    Vitali - he wins too easily at heavy-weight and thereby makes the heavyweight division somewhat boring and predictable
     
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    Wladimir has proven to be mentally weak.....surely this would ENDEAR him to Canadians.
     
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    I agree with you 100%. I hadn't seen much of Mares before this fight, and I was thinking yeah, I like him, I like his style etc. Fun to watch Mexican fighter of the more speedy, athletic variety, with some skill etc.

    But he's a fucking cheating scumbag. He knew full well Mora was in his pocket and took full advantage. Most of those low or even lowish blows were intentional. A non paid off ref would have disqualified him no question, or at least taken 2 points off and discouraged him enough from even going anywhere near low.

    And yeah, spewing the same bullshit after the fight.

    I really want to see Donaire lay him spark out now, but unfortunately as Neil said, that fight probably won't happen.

    As for you not liking Oscar, pretty simple really, although he definitely demands respect as a fighter, he's just a complete and utter fake, smarmy douche.
     
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    Sturm, Bute, Erdei ( Calzaghe to a lesser degrees ) and other duckers - The kind of guy's who claim they will fight anyone yet keeps on fighting lame opponents after lame opponents in front of a large clueless homecrowd. Worst of all, they gets overraed because they (most of the time ) easilly beat their overmatched opponent. Represent everything that is wrong with boxing and only pimp the sport.


    Trinindad- I had no good reasons to hate him, and in retrospect, I can willingly admit that he was pretty much everything that was right with boxing. Was willing to fight anyone, never hid from high risk low reward guy's. Only thing you could really dislike him for was him being too easy to discourage vs defensive guy,s ( Wright, ODLH and to a lesser degree, Hopkins ) and his overating by some of his idiotic fans, wich is what made me dislike him.
     
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    Exactly, fuck that little fake humble piece of shit. I especially hate guy's who tries to pass as good guy's when theym are selfish egocentric. Mares is obviously of this breed, trying to act like a good honest guy when he's only a good guy because every good cards are dealt his way.

    Motherfucker even had the nerve to say that he thought the second kd call was the right one (when you hit someone with a good low blow, you can pretty much alway's feel that it hit the balls so I highly doubt he wasn't aware, and even if he wasn't sure, the replay shown while he was in the ring, clearly showed it was one ).
     
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    froch. fuck him. ugly style and a first class shit bird.
     
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    He's a total phony, that might be why.

    I tend to hate fighters who are overrated by their ethnic fanbase, most of whom are fans of said fighter more than they are of boxing. Trinidad, Chavez, and Pacquiao are the best (worst?) examples I can think of. I guess that's a bad reason.

    A fighter I hate with good reason is Pacquiao (yeah, he qualifies for both). Made stupid excuses to avoid getting a blood test done making him look like he's either a) scared, b) cheating, or c) both (my pick is "c"), his trainer is an annoying prick, and he and his promoter/trainer/fans try to pin his blatant ducking of Floyd on Floyd. Ducked the rubbermatch with Marquez when it actually made sense to make it, and since 130 has cherry-picked his opponents egregiously, but somehow gotten a pass for it.
     
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  18. Double L

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    How the hell can you say Pacquiao has cherry-picked his opponents? That's just indefensible bull-shit. Cherry-picked? Really? Who has he not faced, except PBF? This is the most ridiculous claim I've seen in a while.
     
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    I dislike Duran and Holyfield for good reasons, because they are vastly overrated, boring, humping delusional excuse makers. For Tyson I don't have such good reasons but I hate him more keenly
     
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    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't have much respect for canadians , but still

    :bears::bears:
     
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    Candians are the worst. But they can be so damn funny. :lol:
     
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    Probably, but that's about the only thing i have to withhold. :pathetic:
     
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    Good reason - Mayweather, Leonard and DLH...all three phonies, all three had issues with women (Mayweather and Leonard - beating them up...Oscar - fucking underage girls, wearing women's underwear). Two had drug issues (Oscar and leonard). All three, couldn't believe a word that came out of their mouths.

    Bad reason - Jermain Taylor. Hated hated hated how HBO forced him down our throats and praised him as the second coming. He was an okay guy. It wasn't until after his first loss to Pavlik that I stopped hating the guy. Didn't like seeing him TKO'd by Froch then violently KO'd by Abraham. The Pavlik KO satified my thirst for seeing him KTFO. Put it this way...I disliked him so much I wanted HOPKINS to beat him.

    Side note...I took great pleasure in watching Leonard destroyed by Terry Norris and camacho. Took great pleasure in watching Manny destroy Oscar. I can't wait to see a broke Mayweather on Friday Night Fights fighting for peanuts getting his ass handed to him.
     
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    It would be funny seeing a Mayweather opponent at that stage wearing IRS related stuff like painted logos and trunks
     
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    Good reason: Lennox Lewis. He always had a boring safety first style. Also he was cocky.
     
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    Really, you don't think the "when" of Pacquiao's bouts isn't something that should be questioned? At the very least, his timing is awfully convenient.

    Pacquiao's post-130 resume in reverse chronological order:

    Marquez - first Pac ducked the rubbermatch with JMM at a weight when it would've really meant something. JMM loses in one-sided fashion to Floyd and according to Pactards is "ineffective at higher weights" .. and now Pac wants to fight him above 140, years later.

    Mosley - Pac fights him after Mosley loses in one-sided fashion to Floyd, struggled with Mora. At the time when Floyd fought him, Roach had said Pac would fight Mosley at a catchweight of 142 lbs.

    Margarito - coming off a year layoff, had taken a career-ending beating from Mosley. He was never any good to begin with, but Pac would've never fought him before the Mosley loss regardless. Roach had claimed Margarito was "too big" at around the time Pac fought DLH.

    Clottey - timing of this is irrelevant, since Clottey is/was/always will be garbage

    Cotto - after taking an unholy plaster-fisted beating from Margarito and looking diminished against Clottey

    Hatton - got KO'd by Floyd and looked like shit against Lazcano, who is himself beyond shot

    DLH - obvious to the point where it needs no explanation, but I guess we can excuse this one since it was clearly just about $$

    David Diaz - give me a break
     
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    dont really see that happening. if anything he'd have to finance his own ppv shows if he kept on fighting long past when he should. jones jr never achieved the stardom mayweather jr has, yet he has never had to fight on espn2.
     
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    Fraud F*ckweather's stardom is based on his phony record which comes from beating shot old men who are way past their primes and handpicking his fights. Once he gets KTFO, there is no more stardom. It's all over. And he became a ppv star when all the other ppv stars got old and retired (Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Trinidad, DLH, Vargas, etc).
    He's making his claim in a sport where there are basically no stars left and at the same time, is going to be replaced by MMA as America's number 1 combat sport.:Thumbs:
     

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