I See Old Carl Froch Is Running Off At The Lips Again........

I never lied. :nono:

Froch cannot win a decision in America. He can only win by KO.

Froch is still a moany bitch.

But theft is theft.

Ward is a cheat.

 

I guess it's not a lie when those voices twist everything around.

 

There is a deathly silence about this place, kind of like when Martinez landed that Homer on Williams chin, and Max and Manny, fell silent......so quiet.

 

Can Froch win a decision in America???? It CANNOT be done, I tells you.....too much rests on this one. This is the big one. No way. Froch had better get down to NYC and tell them about his Jewish ancestors. That might help. Its unlikely though. Too much on this one.

 

It's sort of a no win in a way, for the Americans. They know they will be robbing the kid Froch one way or the other, so if Ward loses, its Honeyghan vs Curry all over again, but when Ward butts and holds his way to a 120-106 decision {Froch loses 2 points, one for showing up and one for going the distance} the World will mock them for being cheating bastards. This could be potentially more embarrassing than that situation Maxboxing had with that little wife-killer from Venezuela.

 

He got the decision last time he fought in AC.

 

Oh??? Was he fighting Ward for all the marbles? No, he was fighting a Pearl Diver for the right to drop a wide decision loss, or a headbutt induced stoppage to AMERICAN WUNDERKID ANDRE "KID Conte Cocktail" WARD in the final of the Super-6.

:rock:

 

Pretty much. He's so fucking nonsensical it's ridiculous.

 

But anyway, I'm not going to even dignify this topic with a response, as no one else seems to be doing either.

 

I actually favour Ward to win by stoppage, maybe technical-decision. His handspeed will be too much early on, but Froch will drag him into the later stages where Wards clinching and illegal moves gradually accumulate too much facial damage, whereupon it is stopped as "they gotta stop this one, Al, sure thing, Joe" or it goes to the cards, and, well, that ought to be a perfunctory exercise if ever there was one :wack:

 

He says as he types a response. ::

Dumb as bricks :laugh11:

 

Wait, so Froch DIDN'T Get Fewer Points for Beating Dirrell, than Ward did for NOT Fighting him, Even Though Irish TWICE Stated it as FACT???...

Hmmmmm...

REED:Alabama:

 

Put it to you like this.....they both got the same points for different amounts of work. One of them fought, the other one didn't. You can dice it anyway you want after that, but one of them got a better deal than the other, que no?


Ward even tried to accuse Froch of being a home-town fighter. ::

Ward added further that his fights vs Bika and Green only took place in Oakland as they wouldn't have generated $$ anywhere else.

:dunno:

Is this kid special???

So he's basically saying he's been taking it so easy that the fights will only sell in his own 'hood??

 

Man, I can't wait for this one.

 

It's massive. It's bigger than Wlad vs Haye, as that was just for Germany. THIS IS FUCKING IT

 

I'm going to put £50 on a Froch win. I'm still confident he'll win as I was all those many weeks ago.

 

Froch has a slim chance. He has no chance if it goes the distance. He won't get a decision in America, not with Ward, who is basically the last man standing as far as Uncle Sam is concerned. Bradley won't fight Khan, Floyd vs Pac is as far off as it ever was, nothing doing at 200+, Dirrell is a sparring-partner now as he awaits a suitable time to recover from his brain damage......so Ward it is.

Froch has a slim, slim punchers chance, specifically with the big right corkscrew he throws, which should be a perfect foil to Wards clinch'n'butt style.

 

But like Steve-Dave was Saying, Ward Fought Kessler (You Know, the Guy FAVORED to WIN the Whole Fucking Tournament) in his FIRST Fight...& he JUST Beat Abraham, the Guy who was Probably the Favorite BEHIND Kessler, when the Tournament 1st Started...

Sorry, but you're Blowing ALOT of Hot Air Over Ward Being "Protected", when he HASN'T Been...U're LOOKING for a Controversy that ISN'T There...



REED:Lok:

 

Reed.....Ward got points for not even fighting Dirrell. The fair thing to do would have been to draft in somebody of Dirrells talent for a competitive fight and make him earn the 2 points. Then they tried to set Ward up for the WBC title and were forced into making Abraham vs Froch for the WBC title. Ward is also protected in the style in which he fights. He butts and he holds.

I like his chances of beating Froch, fair and square, I just know if it's any way close that Froch won't get it. It seems that this contention alone is enough to upset people.

In the meantime, if I could just add, Froch has pissed me off before so much that I started a thread where I referred to him as an "Unconscionable Bitch", regarding his persistent whining and his basic portrayal of Germany as a pit of corruption and evil.

I've sliced it both ways to be fair.

 

99% of America has no idea who Andre Ward is

 

Yeah, but the 1% who does, also known as the US boxing fraternity, have heard of him and want to go on hearing about him.

Dude...when Fatty Shaw tries to bring in all-American officials for a fight with Abraham, a fight in which Abraham is eventually DQ'd, I do have to wonder which side the slice is buttered on.

 

you are on a board with plenty of American fans (including me) who could care less if Ward wins or loses... Boxing is in shit shape the world over, but in America it's practically on life support

 

In the End, whatever Points Ward Got R IRRELEVANT, Because he's BEATEN EVERYBODY PLACED BEFORE Him, Dude...He's NOT in the Finals Because of 2 Lousy Points, he's in the Finals Because he HASN'T Lost Yet...Hell, he HASN'T Even Been Challenged Yet & that's INCLUDING his Fights w/Kessler & Abraham (who he Fared BETTER Against than Froch Did, in BOTH Cases)...

& Fighting in Oakland had ZERO Bearing on the Outcome of his Bouts...It's like U're Laying the Foundation in EVERY POSSIBLE AREA, to Discredit Ward's Win...



REED:Lok:

 

So we're agreed....he's got it won :kidcool: :nana:

 

OUTSIDE of the Heavyweight Division, the American Boxing Community ISN'T Really All that Patriotic...Hell, Manny Pacquiao's ALL The Proof U Need of this....




REED:hammert:

 

It's not even patriotism.....there is a lot of $ at stake.

Having Ward as the man at 168 would be both patriotically and financially very sweet.

PS....I'm not sure Froch handled Abraham any less impressively than Ward did. Just an aside.

 

agREED...

Only Since the Kessler Win has REED BEGAN to Like Ward even a Little...Ward COULDN'T Draw a Crowd @ a Strip Mall, OUTSIDE of California...It's Strange, Because Ward is Clean Cut, Well Spoken, NON Controversial, a Family Man & he's Been UNDEFEATED Since he was 12 or 13...He's the Kind of Guy U'd EXPECT to B an Endorser's DREAM, but it Hasn't Worked Out that Way...

Truth is, David Reid Generated ALOT more Hoopla Coming Out of the Olympics, he Won a World Title by his 12th Pro Fight & was Headlining a PPV by his 15th Pro Fight...Yet Reid Wasn't even HALF the Fighter that Ward is....

There's Certainly NO American Campaign to "Protect" or "Coddle" Andre Ward...



REED:kidcool:

 

How Do U Figure???...American's have HELD the Supermiddle Title in the Past, so it's NOT like Ward would B doing Anything Unprecedented...

Again, American Boxing Fans Bitch about the HEAVYWEIGHT Division Running Over w/Foreign Fighters but that's NEVER Really Been Much of a Concern in the Lower Weights...Pick ANY 1 Of Manny Pacquiao's Last 10 Fights & REED would Bet he Made MORE than Ward's Made his Entire CAREER...

& Pac's Fought PRIMARILY in America in those Bouts...Pac has MAINSTREAM American Endorsers, has Graced the Cover of Time Magazine, has Been on 60 Minutes...Americans R MUCH More Into Pacquiao than they Are Andre Ward...

U're Seeing a Bias that ISN'T there, Bro...Your Conspiracy Theories have SOME Validity in the HEAVYWEIGHT Division, but NONE in the Lower Weights....

REED:mj:

 

Yup... Boxing still had some juice in America when Reid was coming up, it was in decline certainly, but nothing like now... Ward has been a far better pro than Reid ever was but the fact is that most people in America don't even care about boxing, and even ones that are casual fans (the people who will pay a big PPV event, for example) are not familiar with Ward at all...

 

Ramadan is a holy month. 1 month. It's currently August. Froch vs Ward is taking place at the end of October.

You're absolutely right that Froch can't win a decision in the States. Or anywhere else, for that matter.

Your ignorance of the American perspective on boxing and/or Andre Ward is laughable, btw. Reed & cdogg are absolutely correct - this isn't Europe, Americans generally won't care about or support fighters just because they're American.

Nobody in America with the exception of a smattering of fans in the Bay Area gives a shit whether Andre Ward wins or loses.