How does Cotto beat Margarito?

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  1. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Inspired from the Ortiz/PBF thread. This one is much harder to predict however. Most of the forum seems to be split on the outcome and very hesitent on picking a clear winner. This brings up good debate on the fact that it's a pick em fight. So the question is what can team Cotto do to reverse the outcome on the rematch? Does Cotto have what it takes? :shadow:
     
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    be aggressive and keep crackin him in his fucked up eye. go for the stoppage. and hope he aint got much left in the tank.
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I agree. Cotto desent have the power to back him off. I re watched the Margarito/Pac fight and in round 4 Manny hurt Antonio badly with a body shot that seemed to take everything out of him. Cotto MUST find a way to rip the body to back Margarito off him.
     
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    Cotto is in a good position here, if he uses it- it is one of the most coveted positions in sport- the rebound.

    Lewis had it when he fought Holyfield the second time, he won by a far wider margin than he deserved.

    Cotto needs to rumble in, bring his big melon-head up into Margaritos face, crack open that gammy eye, low blow him, work his kidneys. You just know nobody in authority is going to care. At this stage, Cotto could shoot Margarito and Margarito would lose points for holding.

    After 6 rounds of dirty-work that Fritzie Zivic himself would boycott, Cotto should be sitting pretty.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    By punching him in the face and body
     
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    Yes.....but before all that.....:warning:
     
  7. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Agreed. Cotto has a shot at revenge here. He cant let him walk him down. Margarito will surely try to force the fight much earlier then the last time.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think Cotto should be aggressive and push him back. He shouldn't burn his legs so early with excessive movement.

    Margarito isn't used to getting hit in the body so that will work well in Cotto's favor.

    And definitely target the eye.
     
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    Do what he did last time
     
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    By checking his gloves before the fight, to make sure there's no plaster in them.
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That's not enough. Margarito MAY still have the punch resistance and stamina go give Cotto hell.
     
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    Work on his Stamina. That is it.
     
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    Try to make Margarito to become a nice fellow by touching gloves continuously, then sucker punch him at some point
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    That will help but its not enough. Cotto really needs Plan A & B just in case. The Mosley vs Margarito fight is a good reference point for Team Cotto.
     
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    Stick to boxing. He should win a decision if he is able to resist the temptation to mix it up. Stick 'n' move, stick 'n' move.......
     
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    I agree. Boxing is the key but at some point Cotto is gonna have to stand his ground to prevent Margarito walking him down. Mosley stood his ground and ko'd him, wasted very little in execution. Cotto must do the same IMO.
     
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    Mosley had a MUCH better chin than Cotto does.
     
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    He doesnt need a plan B if he has stamina. Stamina makes the mosley and Margarito fight easy work.
     
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    Stamina is not a tactic though. You either have it or you don't.

    No amount of trainng is going to give Fres Oquendo, Joe Frazier stamina for example.
     
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    Chin had shit to do with Cotto getting Stopped in the first fight. That was a non factor. The problem here is Margarito had Cotto working too hard early on and he got gassed.
     
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    Perhaps, but chin has everything to do with his ability (or non-abiliy as the case may be) to trade with Margarito the way Shane did.
     
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    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I disagree. If my fat ass trains for the next month I guarantee I can run for longer periods of time without tiring out then I did before. You can always train to improve stamina.
     
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    A person can train to improve stamina, sure, just as you can train to improve handspeed and power.

    However..No amount of training would have given Frank Bruno..Ali handspeed, and no amount of training would have given Muhammad Ali..Frank bruno power.

    Training allows people to reach potential, but doesn't manufacture something that wasn't there already.

    Don't you not think that Miguel Cotto would have trained his ass off to reach his stamina potential already? Of course he would have! He's a professional fighter. The stamina deficit that he's shown in his biggest fights is simply a reflection of his max potential.
     
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    My point is that he doesnt need to change tactics. He just needs to better his stamina.

    I disagree with you that stamina cant be improved. That is ridiculous.
     
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    Cotto/Margarito II will be on HBO 24/7. I cant wait for this fight.
     
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    Brilliant. More melodramatic nonsense.
     
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    Sly is absolutely right about the stamina issue

    Training maximizes what genetics has provided... outside of illegal means, there is no training that can give you more than your maximum

    Honestly, if there was a way for Nigel Benn, Earnie Shavers, guys like that, to improve something that was a big liability for them, don't you think they would have done it?

    It's no different than any other aspect of the game... there is NO TRAINING REGIMENT ON EARTH that will give Paul Spadafora "Arguello" power, Jose Luis Ramirez "Mayweather" speed or Nigel Benn "Armstrong" stamina... all you can get is the max your individual body is capable of

    It's no different than women with flat butts who went out and bought "Buns Of Steel" excercise videos expecting to magically end up with bubble butts... that is a genetic thing... you will get the most shapely butt POSSIBLE FOR YOU, but you will not have Vida Guerra's ass
     
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    So in other words some of you are saying Cotto is fucked? Stamina is vital against Margarito who will try to walk Cotto down.
     
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    not necessarily

    he needs to pace himself a bit
     

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