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Discussion in 'General MMA Discussion' started by BOSS, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yeah, they lowball Sonnen and THEY make all the money.

    Fuck the UFC, Fuck Sonnen, and fuck all you guys who want to give a cheating piece of shit another title shot.

    I get a kick out of Sonnen's personality. I was impressed with what he did to Silva for 24 minutes, but fuck him.

    Testosterone Deficiency??? Are you fucking kidding me? You should play with the cards you are dealt and only hard work and a legal diet should be your replacement cards.
     
  2. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Preach it sir.

    My take is simple. If your body does NOT produce enough testosterone for you to compete as an MMA fighter, then you can't be an MMA fighter. It's very simple. You're not an athlete.
     
  3. Ironman

    Ironman Scrub

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    Was Yushin Okami really that good though? I saw a decent wrestler pretending like he could box. Again, a one dimensional fighter who was taken out of his element and defeated.
    I think it's obvious the real fight to make is Anderson Silva vs Jon Jones. Anderson has been to 205. The fight could be made immediately.
     
  4. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    You tell me. He's fought some of the best in the world and ALWAYS looked competitive. Then he faces Silva and looks like a kid.
     
  5. Ironman

    Ironman Scrub

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    I don't know. I just didn't find Okami that impressive at any point. Even Dana White called it openly. He said Okami had no chance in hell. I never actually understood what Okami could possibly do in a fight with Silva. If you have no striking and no explosive power and speed, you can't beat a healthy in-tuned Silva. People were praying to see some Sonnen-type performance from Okami.
     
  6. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    So you're basically using circular rationale. Since Okami doesn't have the skills to look good against Silva then he must not be very good.

    Okami was good enough to easily beat Marquardt and Munoz who are both guys that probably would have filled the #1 contender spot at MW if not for Okami.

    Simply put, Okami earned his shot by beating people. He was a legitimate threat at 185 and Silva just schooled him.

    It's just like Belfort. Silva destroy Vitor and the masses were screaming that Vitor was washed up and didn't deserve a title shot. Then one fight later Belfort knocks out the granite chinned Akiyama and people are proclaiming that the old Belfort is back. Bull shit. He's not back. He's just not fighting Anderson Silva.

    In relative comparison to Anderson Silva guys just don't look very good. However, against any other MW in the world, guys like Okami, Belfort, Sonnen, Maia, etc are among the top of the division. The gap is just so wide that they end up looking average compared to Silva.
     
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  7. Ironman

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    Well that's your opinion. I'm saying I just never found Okami particularly good. You know you have real problems when your base is wrestling and yet you think you can stand outside and box.
     
  8. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    That's his opinion and that's it. Your opinion is weak. End of story.
     
  9. Ironman

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    :laugh11: Marquardt and Munoz? Sorry but these are not top level anything. Besides, everybody has a right to an opinion. And my opinion is that Okami was not that good and I gave him no hope in hell. Nor did the majority of MMA fans including Dana White. Sorry if you think I'm disrespecting Okami. :dunno:

    I guess I just don't have much love for these wrestler types who think they can box. Okami has zero boxing skills. I'm not a fan of his but I do respect his fighting spirit.
     
  10. BOSS

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    Fighting spirit ? After the second knockdown he just stayed down and basically accepted defeat. Pussy. Fuck him. Japanese suck @ mma.
     
  11. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    :stir: I was fucking with you man
     
  12. Ironman

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    I didn't have the balls to say it because I'm not familiar with the rules on this forum regarding what we can get away with. But I agree 100%.
     
  13. Trplsec

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    Dude, you can debate it all you want but Munoz is currently top 10 at the weight and Marquardt was one of the 4 or 5 prior to the Okami loss.

    But here's a little exercise for you, go ahead and list the Top 10 MW's outside of Silva in your opinion. And I already know that Okami and Munoz won't be on the list so have at it...
     
  14. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    :atu:

    You could write a thesis on it.
     
  15. Ironman

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    Do you really think I'm going to concern myself in this childish nonsense? I stated my case. I said they're good fighters but are not as good as they're made out to be. I will put my list up soon regardless to shut you up once and for all.
     
  16. Trplsec

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    It's funny when thinking about it because the list couldn't include Maia since Munoz beat him or Palharez since Marquardt beat him.

    Damn, remove Munzo, Maia, Palhares, Okami, and this should be a fun Top 10.
     

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