Nonito Donaire vs Omar Narvaez on Oct 22

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  1. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Fightnews is reporting this fight (donaire vs narvaez) on this date (oct 22) in NYC.

    Strange fight in a few ways:

    1. I've never heard anyone ever mention this matchup.

    2. Narvaez never leaves Argentina. (Going boxrec warrior I see that he has gone to europe a handful of times, with Sarritzu and Asloum being pretty tough opponents.)

    3. Narvaez certainly had easier ways to cash out. He is putting his undefeated record at risk big time as he will surely be a big underdog in this fight.

    Narvaez has been boxing extremely well the last several years. He wins almost every exchange by being first and being last. He's accurate, he has excellent timing, he has good feet. Whatever disadvantages Narvaez has, I do not think you can make a good case that he has slipped. If he has, I haven't noticed it at all.

    Donaire seems a lot bigger, much flashier, the harder puncher by a lot, and he will definitely have the announcers on his side as this figures to be an HBO or Showtime card and Narvaez is basically unknown to most announcers despite the fact that his gazillion defenses have been televised in the US on TyC throughout the years.

    As I remember, Narvaez was the first 2000 olympian to win a major belt (despite not getting hardly jack recognition for it since he wasn't an american or a gold medal winner) and for all I know, he might be the only one with a belt right now???

    I've thought Narvaez deserved mention as one of the best pure boxers for a while, perhaps even being the best (although I go with Gabriel Campillo). It seems like a much more logical fight would have been to match him up with Ivan Calderon who generally has gotten that distinction. Personally, I think the best Narvaez would have beaten the best Calderon clearly. Even though Calderon has gone down in weight, Narvaez isn't the type of fighter to scare away a boxer like Calderon.

    I like Donaire, but I'll be hoping for Narvaez to pull off the upset. Narvaez is good enough to outpoint Donaire, I think. But even if Narvaez gets ahead, it just seems like Donaire will catch him sooner or later. Fact is, Donaire is good enough that he may be able to outpoint Narvaez straight up.
     
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    Nonito is very exciting
     
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    Who the hell is Omar Narvaez?
     
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    What Mr. REED said. I'm just happy he's back, boxing really, REALLY needs Nonito Donaire right now.
     
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    Why do you continue to say such stupid things time and time again?

    No he is not good enough to outpoint Donaire or even come close to it, he'll be undersized and outclassed, and he'll be lucky to see the 4th round.

    I think you probably know that too, you just say retarded things for the sake of it for some reason.
     
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    I hear you, but I would actually like to see him challenged, see him fight someone who can test him a bit and make a fight of it.
     
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    salaco Undisputed Champion

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    Narvaez is pretty ancient but he's a tough southpaw and has the kind of championship experience which Donaire won't have seen before...I'd suspect a points victory for Donaire but I'd really doubt a blowout will occur
     
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    i have zero interest in donaire facing former flyweights. he is clearly big enough and talented enough to fight at bantamweight and beyond. he may as well fight a top 10 type guy at that weight instead of navarez to prepare for agbeko after that.
     
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    Narvaez's championship experience is going to be pretty meaningless against the insane speed, power, size, talent, skill etc that Donaire brings to the table.

    Narvaez is a 36 year old flyweight. Montiel would stop him, let alone Donaire.

    I'll be amazed if Narvaez sees round 7, let alone last the distance. This is a pretty pointless fight, and yeah it'll be a blowout for sure. Like Neil said, a legit top 10 bantamweight would be better preparation for Agbeko or Mares. I have no idea why they're making this fight, it's weird.
     
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    How is it stupid? Have you watched Narvaez fight? Lately? The guy has been outclassing opponents of a pretty similar level to those Donaire has been fighting.

    And, afaik, he's been doing it without Victor Conte's help. The problem with trying to outpoint Donaire these days is that everyone has their tongue up his ass...he'll be able to get outlanded for 160 seconds, flurry at the end of the round, and get the round on people's scorecards. And that will be an even bigger possibility with HBO doing the telecasting.

    Donaire may blow out Narvaez, but I will not be surprised if Narvaez does very well against him and I won't be all that surprised if he even deserves the decision. Narvaez is an excellent fighter. Call that stupid if you wish, but I think you're just being ignorant.
     
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    There's ZERO Evidence Supporting this Notion...Reminds REED of Irish BITCHING about Andre Ward having a "Homefield Advantage" that he's Never EVER had to Actually USE....




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    When you don't have to travel, when you don't have to worry about not having the homefield advantage, when you don't have any fans against you...it's an advantage even if it isn't apparent you need it.

    You're right about Donaire not needing the help in scoring, but there is evidence he'll get the help if does need it...he is HBO's darling right now...he might as well be Whitaker jr when it comes to Kellerman's gushing praise. And when Darchinyan was coming at him full bore...2 judges gave him 2 of the first 4 rds, but one didn't give him any...so there is at least that evidence...albeit not convincing evidence, I admit.

    I just think it's bound to show with everyone committing to Donaire as a p4p top 3 guy right now. We'll see. Or not.
     
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    Narvaez is a good fighter but he's a 36 year old flyweight.

    Did you not see what Donaire did to Montiel? Made him look like he didn't belong in the same ring. Montiel is a good, skilled, experienced fighter, who would almost certainly beat Narvaez.

    Narvaez is going to get crushed. Donaire is not only a very special fighter, he's also bigger than everyone he fights. It's obvious he won't even be challenged until he moves up to at least 122.

    You obviously just like the idea of extreme underdogs doing well or winning, but Narvaez has basically no chance whatsoever against Donaire, he'll be beaten up and stopped in 1 sided fashion.
     
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    Narvaez-Seda was a damn good fight. Narvaez can fight a bit but IMO is clearly inferior in about every area. He should get beat up.
     

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