Neck push.

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  1. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Pushing your opponent's neck down when he gets under you is cheating & refs need to start doing their job and penalising it. It's a major contributor to the growing number of shitty, bitty, stop-start fights, giving negative fighters a consistent escape route from fighting as well as taking whole legitimate strategic aspects away from guys who are either short, like to fight inside or like to use head movement as their primary means of defense. Aspects which tend to be the most visually pleasing in the sport & make for the most high-action fights, too. That's my thought for the day.

    Floyd, Hopkins, Wlad - horrible, smelly cheats.
     
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    Floyd does it so its OK. More throat bars make for more pfp occasions.:bow:
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    I can't remember anybody losing a point for it.
     
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    Totally agree, Hut
     
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    Yeah I know, Harold Lederman has done his best by trying to talk about holding during Wlads fights, but he undoes all his good work once Floyd and Ber-Nared get to fighting. Its not holding then, its retro-Philly-in-fighting. Pure class.
     
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    Lederman is an offensive imbecile. It really isn't any type of fighting, it's 'escapology'. Probably the only technical or strategic frontier in modern boxing.

    Somebody stamp it out, please:Steve-Dave/MMA:
     
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    The commentators could stamp it out if they attacked all fighters in equal measure and criticized them accordingly. But they have their pets, and this keeps the contract alive and moving.
     
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    Ali did it constantly.
     
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    yes, although he held behind the opponent, and pulled them in rather than down. Also Lewis did it a lot.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Yeah Ali became very stinky as the 70s wore on.
     
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    Lennox Lewis was far worse than any of these, so add THE BRIT to your list.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    My passion for Great Britain & the Crown distorts my judgement again. :pathetic:
     
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    Yeah :lol: You can only hide behind that AoH vitriol for so long, but the mask is gonna slip eventually :lol:
     
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    Weirdly, I excluded Lewis because he retired 8 years ago. But Sly's right, he was 'definitely' one of the main instigators of this trend.

    CHEATING.
     
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    Lennox had a vicious right uppercut. I can't remember him landing a good one without holding/pushing his opponent's neck with his left hand first.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Hey, at least he was doing that to fucking FIGHT. Cheating to fight > Cheating to escape fighting.
     
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    It can be argued that guys are allowed to do it because when someone comes in low or follows through too aggressively on a punch and ends up underneath a fighter, they could get cut.

    Naturally, when a guy comes in low, he does not come out low most times; he raises up. In some cases, if the fighter does not hold his head down a little, that rising head can be more of a weapon.
     
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    i hate this practice...it needs to be banned
     
  20. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Bobbing and weaving doesn't cause many head clashes in my observation.....leaping in with shots is the culprit most the time....usually ending in clinches too.

    Bah.
     

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