The Official Cotto-Margarito II Prediction Thread!

Bull-shit. It was tape not gauze that was objected to.

The guy who wrapped Tito's hands was his father.

 

It's difficult to know what to believe regarding the extent of Trinidad's transgression. Upon discovery, Hopkins' camp led us to believe it was a gross violation of the rules. And Trinidad's performances (and punching power) including and since the Hopkins' fight, compared to before, seem to support this claim.

On the other hand, more recently, Hopkins' camp and especially Richardson, seem to want to minimize Trinidad's violation, almost as if it were not material. The majority of fans seem willing to believe this version of events.

The fact is, though, there's little direct evidence on which to base either point of view, with the apparent evaporation of Trinidad's vaunted punching power being the most compelling evidence that something was indeed awry with Trinidad's wrapping prior to the Hopkins fight.

Thing that's interesting is that Trinidad's power and effectiveness leading up to the Hopkins fight were seemingly super-natural - it was the kind of thing that left fans speechless. And so when news that his wraps had not been legal, everything seemed to fall into place - suddenly there was a perfect explanation for what previously had seemed unexplainable - Trinidad's ability to wallop his opponents with glancing shots - to dole out fight-changing power with seemingly little effort (see Thiam devastation). All of the sudden it made sense! And Trinidad's subsequent fights, in which he showed himself to be a decent puncher at best, only supported what Hopkins' camp had said initially, right off the bat - that his wraps had been highly illegal and highly dangerous.

 

Godfather, we're not making this up. Who knows what the exact truth is, but what I'm saying is AT THE TIME, it was reported that it was multiple, wet layers of tape and gauze, that had hardened into a plaster of paris like cast.

Double remembers the same thing.

 

BTW Sly I forgot to reply to this, but yeah, I agree.

As much of a scumbag as Plasterito is, it can't be denied he's one resilient human being, he sure can take a fucking pasting.

Unfortunately that could still be a factor in this fight obviously, if he's not totally shot from that beating.

 

i never said bouie fisher was in the room. pay attention, fuckface. his son was there in the room and has no reason to lie.

 

fisher jr. was there in the room. that is common knowledge. ask anyone familiar with the situation. you obviously arent, since you didnt even know it was trinidads father wrapping his hands.

 

:atu: the quote? the guy said it directly to me

no, i dont think their would be similar punishments. his wraps were hard like a cast. there was no foreign substances in the gloves, and he didnt remove padding.

 

Like Neil just said, it was Tito's own dad that wrapped his hands.

Plus, it was major websites that were reporting it was like a hard cast, this wasn't forum gossip.

The reason he didn't get into trouble is it was all under the guise of being a normal handwrap, it was just a bigger, heavier, harder version of a normal wrap, just a heavily modified handwrap, not an actual foreign object placed in there.

That's why he didn't get in trouble.

 

No, I don't think any of us really know the truth without seeing the wrap ourselves.

I'm going by what reporters said at the time, that it was multiple layers of tape and gauze that formed a fairly hard cast.

I know you love Tito for some reason, but those wraps were downright suspect, they were taken away for a reason.

Tito was a borderline glove loader, they just did it in a more subtle, clever way than retards like Plasterito and his trainer

 

The truth is Tito was a cheater deal with it.

 

Case closed.

 

I want to believe Tito was legit... I was a big fan.

But I can see the other side. Nazim trying to diminish the impact, so Bernard's win over Tito doesn't lose any luster.

 

That there is bullshit. It was NOT "multiple wet layers." Naazim Richardson said himself that the way Trinidad wrapped his hand was LEGAL....... Just not in New York. There objection was the FASHION in which Trinidad's hand was wrapped.

He went on to add that there is no comparison in what Trinidad had done to what Margarito did.

Unlike Tito, Tony was caught with BLOCKS of actual PLASTER in each hand but for some reason you and Double L see it fit to compare that to a trivial dispute about how much guaze and tape is allowed to protect a fighter's hand.

 

Yeah, that's pretty obvious tbh.

 

No doubt what Plasterito did was worse, but I think it's pretty clear Tito was cheating too.

Obviously you're a fan of Trinidad so it's hard to accept, but him and Papa Tito basically had handwraps on steroids.

 

Oh yeah, the wet gauze and plaster like cast is obviously a bunch of horseshit being thrown around in here.

 

Not obvious, but I can see it both ways.

 

Whether you think it's fair or not to compare what Trinidad did to what Margarito did, I think it's ridiculous to try to paint what Trinidad did as, "trivial." (your exact word).

 

THIS!

 

I don't remember hearing around the ring anything about a foreign body in Tito's glove. They had to be rerapped cause as someone said one hand was rapped withought a witness and was wrapped too thick. There was about a 10 minute or so delay as I remeber at the Garden and then they fought. No mention of anyhting wet,etc, just a rerap to satify the Hopkins crew and the officials from what I heard around ringside. Great fight....GS