LOL Pretty good fight, actually, good style match... With today's weigh-ins, Peterson is really a welter anyway, so its not like its unfair to match him with Price
LOL. You sure do go overboard with the whole weigh-in thing. Its a differance of 24 hours bro, not 4 days. The same day weigh-in would only effect guys who nowadays kill themselves to make a weight (like Rios, Castillo, Pavlik). Peterson doesnt really struggle to make 140. Theres really no reason to believe that in the same day weigh-in era he couldnt make 140. He doesnt have a welterweight's frame at all. Guys like Leonard, and Palimino were much larger men than Peterson. Benitez was a bigger man than Peterson as well. Peterson is a junior welter in any era. Put him in the early 80's, and he'd have been yet another knock out victim of Pryor.
peterson was 155lbs in the ring vs khan. i doubt he'd fight at super lightweight if he had to weigh in the same day
First off, we really have no idea how much weight fighters of the same-day weigh-in put on between the morning weigh-in and the fight. But if I had to guess, probably more than yall might suspect. Furthermore, correct me if I'm wrong, but arent the "in the ring" weights taken with the fighters clothes on? I believe I heard that once. That could add 4-6 pounds on its own. Peterson is a small man compared to Leonard, Duran, Palimino, and Benitez. And he's a TINY man compared to Hearns. The extra WATER WEIGHT Peterson put on doesnt really change that. Just look as his frame as compared to guy like Leonard, or hell even a guy from the 50's like Gavilian, and tell me he's really a welterweight.
He was actually talking about Andy "the Hawk" Price. And I cant see Peterson lasting 9 rounds with Pryor. Peterson's chin is pretty mediocre. If Bradley had more power, he woulda stopped Peterson early. I say Pryor stops Peterson in 6 TOPS. Its possible he stops him within 4-5. Peterson gets the shit kicked outta him every round before that. Now Bradley, would probably go about 8-9 rounds with Pryor before getting stopped.
Read my follow up post. The in-ring weights can be deceiving. Like I said, I could be wrong, but I believe they're taken with the fighters' clothes on. That alone could add 5-6 pounds. Just examine the same-day weigh-in era. I dont mean the 30's-40's either where fighters were generally smaller. I mean the early 80's. Can you honestly tell me that Peterson is roughly the same size as Leonard, Hearns, Benitez, Curry, Duran, and Palomino? He's not a welterweight.
I dont believe they are taken with the clothes on, makes no sense to me at all... why even have the weights if that is the case? Without the clothes being on theory, it doesn;t wash... there's no fucking way that with same-day weigh-ins, Aaron Pryor came in to a Junior Welterweight fight at 155 pounds after weighing 139 1/4 merely 8 hours earlier, that's simply crazy... 3 pounds, maybe... 15??? comfortably? no
Khan & Peterson were 5'10 & 5'9 respectively and look at the size of them: To answer your question, yes.
Alright, lets take Peterson back to that era. My point is, if Peterson can weigh-in comfortably at 140 at 3pm on Friday, why couldnt he do it at 9-10am the next morning? That might be a problem for a guy KILLING himself to make weight, for any fighter that makes the weight comfortably, it wouldnt be a big deal. Also, put Aaron Pryor in today's era and he's once again a junior welter. Could also be a lightweight, but since the bigger money/competition is at 140 currently, that'd still be the Hawk's division. Also, Pryor was a pretty THICK guy. Under today's weigh-in rules, I almost guarantee he'd come into the ring at 150-152. Just like the fighters of today. But in the same day era, he was able to make 140, just as I think Peterson would.
That would make sense if NO fighter in that era struggled to make weight. But they did, just as they do today. I wouldnt be surprised if a guy like Duran, weighing in a 135 in the morning, came into the ring at night at around 143-144. Its not as hard as you think.
Cutting weight's basically become a science in itself over the last 30 years across a whole bunch of sports. Probably mostly driven by bodybuilding. Guys have different tools at their disposal now and operate in a different climate of expectations/competition. Just look at Peterson. He's 155lb there, there's just no way he could fight 12-15lb lighter than you see, like Pryor did. Pryor would likely be a super featherweight in 2011.
Alright, lets take Leonard. Theres no way in hell Peterson and Khan are naturally the same size as Leonard. Especially Khan, who started his career at 135. Leonard was likely a teenager the last time he weighed 135. Going by yalls logic, each fighter in the same-day era would be a division lower today. But a guy like Leonard would still be at his peak at 147-154 if he was around today.
Please don't mistake me for saying that this somehow makes modern guys better. They'd just be fighting in higher weight classes in 1979 (and getting their asses handed to them).
I dont see that AT ALL. Pryor was far thicker/bigger than any current junior lightweight. Lightweight? Yes, but not 130. Pryor is a 135-140 fighter in any era. Is Tim Bradley's midget ass a welterweight in 1981 also?
You call him a midget but he's the same height as Pryor: See what I'm saying? My guess is Bradley would lose some unnecessary muscle and still fight at 140 given his small frame. But still, allot of modern fighters would be a division or two higher, including Peterson, I think
