Ward vs Froch

Having said that I don't expect Ward to win by KO. He smacked chinny ass Green around the ring and was never close to KO'ing him.

 

Was a lucky shot due to our Froch being off balance. Wasn't much to deter Froch at all. We all know what happened after that.

 

This. 3rd round.

 

He struggled mightily until Jermain gassed?

 

is jimmy being facetious or does he not know much about boxing?

 

:: you funny. Taylor unleashed the cobra after knocking down Froch. He couldn't cope with Froch' toxicity.

 

What do you think? End of the day who fucked who up? Exactly. :crafty:

 

If Taylor gassed, he gassed because Froch was putting it on him. I can understand people not having the highest opinion of British fighters but this revisionist piffle that has Hatton only beating Tszyu via fouls or Froch somehow lucking out against a tired Taylor has to be reined in somewhat. Taylor was enjoying early success but Froch kept the pressure up and finished well. A lot of inferior fighters would have failed to get the stoppage by panicking and throwing all the wrong shots etc.

 

i think froch was hurt and his chin is over rated. ward can hurt him, and can stop him in the second half of the fight if froch keeps pressing throughout.

 

Anyone can stop anyone if they keep landing cleanly, a la Douglas vs Tyson. I expect the combination of Wards EPO, the home-town love he gets and Frochs tendency to be too hittable to be the difference in this fight.

 

Taylor gassed against Abraham and Pavlik too.

 

my guess is froch will not press throughout. he'll resign somewhere around or before the 8th and then just coast to defeat.

 

Don't get me wrong I do like Froch, his attitude is great and he is really good and exciting. I just simply think that Ward is better than everyone at 168.

 

taylor didnt gas against pavlik. he got beatdown

 

True, but he did go crazy trying to finish Pavlik early, which probably didn't help him.

 

This is factual.

 

In the first fight he gassed after punching himself out early. I wouldn't equate that sort of gassing with the "panic" type of gassing.

In the Abraham fight he was badly hurt in the 9th and then went into survival mode but that was his last hurrah in any case, and it was the big right that ended it as opposed to exhaustion alone on Taylors behalf.

I don't deny Taylor faded vs Froch, but the question has to be asked as to why he faded. It's not like he sat down and refused to get up before 10 was counted. Froch hunted him down, wore him out and found the punches to end it.

To beat Ward, Froch is going to have to hurt Ward very very early in the fight and keep him that way throughout. It's a bad style matchup for Froch, he won't get any favours either, because Ward, dass they one, dass they one. I wouldn't want to downplay Carl's own deficiencies either, he's a bit open, too open for an active humper like Ward.

 

I don't think this fight is as safe a bet as people suggest (as in ward winning handily over 12). Just a gut feeling.

Froch hasn't faced someone like Ward and Ward hasn't faced someone like Froch. Froch has shown a great chin thus far in his career - this cannot be denied.

Ward definitely has the ability to tag him ALOT - that's obvious as Ward has the advantage here in speed and that straight right can prove a potent weapon for him. Froch can make it difficult for Ward by supplying pressure and needs to attempt to counter Ward with big shots, to deter him.

People are going on about how they believe Ward can hurt Froch, but what if Froch lands something big on Ward's chin?

 

I will be in stitches if Froch ko's Ward.

 

Yeah, like weapons of mass destruction. They do exist. Just not in Iraq.

 

guess it depends on your definition of "great". frochs been hurt before. as for ward, froch should be worried about his left hand. if you have seen ward fight before you'd realize his right hand aint much.

 

It's a close fight which will be dictated by the preferential treatment Ward seems to get and the fact that stylistically he is simply better suited to the task at hand. He's a better, harder Dirrell with a forward gear instead of neutral and reverse.

 

Ward reminds me a lot of a "converted" Southpaw. Heavy left with a strangely "weak" right, a bit like De La Hoya.

 

Didn't Froch admit he was hurt?

 

Ward can't wipe his ass with his right hand

 

Froch was hurt way worse in the Dirrell fight.

 

he was hurt in both fights. neither against some monster banger. his chin is over rated.

 

That wouldn't be that shocking really. I don't think Ward has the best chin, he's just gotten better at protecting it. He's been hurt before.

 

Did I say that I can see Ward ko'ing Froch? No. Did I say that Ward could KO Froch with his right hand? No.

Froch's chin is proven. He takes shots and comes for more. Simple.

Btw, I don't think Ward's left hand is anything to fear. There's something quite amusing at the way he throws it.

 

Did he? ::

If he did, he's lying. He's Just trying to give Taylor some encouragement in future fights ::