Jack Dempsey vs Bruce Seldon

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by BOSS, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    Ramonza brought this up so let's go a step further.
     
  2. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Seldon became a walking joke after the Tyson farce, but at his best he was a good boxer with speed, solid punch and good boxing technique, and he would have beaten several world champions and titlists head to head.

    Seldon KOs Dempsey in the early rounds. They don't belong in the same ring
     
  3. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    Thank you. I also see this. Seldon threw the Tyson fight . He was actually just a tad better than that.
     
  4. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    I have a feeling somebody just fell off their rocking chair.
     
  5. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Seldon.
     
  6. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    That would imply that I was surprised. I wasnt exaggerating in the other thread. Dempsey's next assignment is Rocky Sekorski.
     
  7. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Dempsey has a punchers chance. But I'd favour Sekorski.
     
  8. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Of course you would.
     
  9. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    holyfield would give dempsey, the best dempsey, an absolute ass whipping. i am referring to holyfield circa the kevin barry fight.
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    In much the same way I'd take the current west brom team to beat the Italy 38 team without hesitation. Because my eyes are for more than reading rhapsodical written accounts with.
     
  11. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Seldon

    No one is going to write books about Seldon, and nobody ought to. People have written books about Dempsey, and deservedly so.

    But the sport Dempsey took part in bears little resemblance to the one Seldon took part in. It's that simple.
     
  12. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Dempsey was a bad ass & an innovator. And cool looking. But he was fighting guys who'd never seen a proper left hook in an era where throwing a power punch usually meant throwing yourself around the ring to get weight behind it
     
  13. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Agree with every word. Ironically.
     
  14. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I agree with Hut, apart from the West Brom bit
     
  15. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    You don't think a championship or low-premiership standard team would hump the best 1930s team?:dunno:

    I think the current Celtic team would beat the 1967 team easily, never mind a 30s team
     
  16. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    No I agree with that, just not West Brom.
     
  17. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    :lol:

    Fair enough. Well QPR would certainly beat the great Italian team of the 30s :cheers:
    They'd play an occasional 1-2, run when they don't have the ball & play more than one defender. 'WHAT DEMONRY IS THIS!?':lol:
     
  18. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    DEMONRY!!!1
     
  19. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    DEMONRY!!
     
  20. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    who is a more skilled boxer, Jess Willard or Tony Tubbs?
     
  21. Ramonza Soliloquies

    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Tubbs was. And Tunney was more skilled, in turn, than Tubbs.
     
  22. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Tubbs is 374x more skilled than Tunney. Approximately.
     
  23. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    This

    You know what era I couldn't say that about automatically? anytime from the 40s on to Tubbs' time

    It has nothing to do with television... Ezzard Charles looks more skillful than any guy out there right now or in Tubbs' time... Gene Tunney simply does not
     
  24. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    A few examples of Tunney throwing a proper left hook......or even any proper, short turned over shot which doesn't rely on throwing his whole momentum around to generate power. Or a few good Tunney combos which don't basically involve flailing weight back and forth from foot to foot....might convince me Tubbs is only only 100x more skillful.
     
  25. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    You want examples and evidence? Here it is


    From "Ten And Out!"

    by Alexander Johnston

    1927

    http://www.harrygreb.com/tunneymagarticleswritten.html
     
  26. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I'm convinced. Tunney > Charles & Foster
     
  27. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    :cheers::giggle:
     
  28. The Genius

    The Genius DEMONRY!!

    God this exchange made me laugh. If I knew how, I'd make demonry my custom title in honor of you gents. :lol:
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2012
  29. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    ^credit cdogg on 'Demonry' :lol:
     
  30. Come on now. Sure Dempsey was crude compared with modern fighters but now people are suggesting that he'd lose to every single post 30s titlist which is just ludicrous.
     

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