Martinez vs Vargas at 154

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Xplosive, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,695
    Likes Received:
    13,759
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    This is a far more competitive matchup than Martinez vs Leonard.

    Would Nando's strength and technical ability win out, or would Martinez's handspeed be too much and Nando walks into something he never sees?
     
    Xplosive, Mar 20, 2012
    #1
  2. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2010
    Messages:
    6,945
    Likes Received:
    0
    Vargas UD or late stoppage
     
    loadedgloves, Mar 20, 2012
    #2
  3. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2002
    Messages:
    17,162
    Likes Received:
    1,714
    Home Page:
    Vargas wins based on his huge edge in era
     
    Ugotabe Kidding, Mar 20, 2012
    #3
  4. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,788
    Likes Received:
    0
    Home Page:
    martinez via late TKO.
     
    joony, Mar 20, 2012
    #4
  5. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    111,118
    Likes Received:
    8,388
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    :l2::l2::l2:

    Maybe, Maybe...but what has he done RECENTLY???:dancingBaby:
     
    Irish, Mar 20, 2012
    #5
  6. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Messages:
    28,077
    Likes Received:
    742
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    London
    I'd go for Vargas
     
    Jimmy, Mar 20, 2012
    #6
  7. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,695
    Likes Received:
    5,364
    I'll go with Vargas as well. A lot of the little things Macklin did that gave him success Nando could certainly improve on. There's still a good chance Martinez could land some "laser" shot down the pipe Vargas doesn't see. That's not to say Sergio only has a puncher's chance though. The styles mesh well and Martinez would have plenty of countering opportunities.

    Although Vargas had a reputation as a hot-head he was fairly calm and intelligent in the ring. I think he survives a few scares and wins a close but well earned points win.
     
    whiskey, Mar 21, 2012
    #7
  8. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    30,692
    Likes Received:
    4
    Yeah. Vargas was actually a pretty good fighter. It's a tough sell because it's fashionable these days to say Tito could never fight.
     
    steve_dave, Mar 21, 2012
    #8
  9. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    111,118
    Likes Received:
    8,388
    Location:
    In The Trenches With My Boy Sepp
    Home Page:
    Vargas was a moron who was handled by Winky Wright. This notion of him as some sort of cold-assassin is nonsense- he rushed out and made elementary mistakes in the Trinidad fight, including getting up too fast and not taking 5 minutes when Trinidad balled him.

    He only came back into the fight relative to how far he had been knocked out of it. Much like Macklin, he had a fatal flaw of not really being able to adjust once things started to slip away from him- once his aggressive, roided-up approach didn't work with Oscar, he got worn down and stopped. Same with Trinidad, once he got tired and had done his best, he got worn down and stopped.

    He struck me as being an ignorant, emotive sort of fighter who hung around with ignorant, emotive kinds of people. Its no surprise that the Roberto Garcia and Brandon Rios have picked up where he left off.

    He didn't like fast fighters who could make him hold his hands back. He never beat any really really good black fighters either. What are his best wins? Campas? Raul Marquez? Shit, Raul Marquez is Campas best win. :lol: Martinez is left-handed, fast, powerful, a guy who could hack it at 160. I fancy his chances here by late stoppage.
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2012
    Irish, Mar 21, 2012
    #9
  10. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Messages:
    10,242
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    None
    Location:
    Jake's Rule Violations: 3.5
    Sergio Pussy has a knockout ration SLIGHTLY MORE THAN 50% He is not a fucking puncher. One fluke kayo over Paul Williams does not make a puncher neither are his kayo victories over EUROSCRUBS. Vargas wins by knockout.
     
    Free Ike, Mar 22, 2012
    #10
  11. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,695
    Likes Received:
    5,364
    Winky Wright hardly "handled" Vargas. If you think he won the fight i have no issue with that. Many think Winky won it. I scored it 6 rounds each. Either way it was close. Nando also beat Ike Quartey in an excellent and underrated fight.
     
    whiskey, Mar 22, 2012
    #11
  12. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Messages:
    10,242
    Likes Received:
    0
    Occupation:
    None
    Location:
    Jake's Rule Violations: 3.5
    Winky won that fight pretty clearly. Btw, Lincoln City is a cool little city in the center of Oregon. It is awesome.
     
    Free Ike, Mar 22, 2012
    #12

Share This Page