HBO Face Off Mayweather vs Cotto (Preview)

I do. :warning:

Ok so yeah, nobody knocks out Mosley, I was just giving Sly shit. I am sticking to the fact that Cotto will see the final bell. I'm hoping Cotto lands a hail mary and puts Floyd out though.

 

Why the hate, son?

:wack:

 

Who's hating? I thought we were boys Muzse?

 

Pbf/mosley was a boring and tedious fight. And against ortiz, pbf was very defensive up until an opportunity for a sucker punch and a cheap win presented itself.

It's either a mis carriage of language to say pbf "brought it" in those fights, or it's a mischaracterization. Either way it's bull-shit.

 

Cotto is gonna get raped dry

 

Mayweather-Hatton 24/7 was the best.

 

Mosley isn't tough as nails

He flat out coasted to losses against your idol and pacman

 

Come on play along. I havent had e-beef in years. Figured I'd start with "easy work " to get back into the swing of it.

 

Start bothering me about Irish stuff again::

 

Physically tough, mentally not that tough.

 

This Post is a MIScharacterization, Doub...

if, If, IF Floyd-Sugar Shane was "Boring", it DIDN'T Become So Until the 4th or 5th Round...The Early Rounds were ENTHRALLING, if Not Exciting...Shane HURT Floyd in Round 2; Then & THERE, Floyd Made a CONCIOUS Effort to STAND his Ground & PURSUE Shane for the Remainder of the Bout...

If that Bout was "Boring", ALL of the Blame Should B Cast Upon Sugar Shane Mosley Exclusively...Ditto for the Ortiz Fight...1nce Again, Floyd was the FLAT FOOTED Guy that was FORCING the Action More Times than Not...

Floyd will NEVER B Confused w/Aaron Pryor or Marvin Hagler or even Ray Leonard, in Terms of Being a Balls to the Wall OFFENSIVE Minded Fighter...But AGE has Most Certainly FORCED him Into Being More STATIONARY...These Days, Floyd Gets By on UPPER BODY Movement Moreso than Fleet Footedness, for Defensive Purposes...

That's a FACT, Doub...


REED:kidcool:

 

exactly. He is physically resistant to trauma

But he is not a guy who is going to go out on his shield

 

I agree with both posts. Cotto-Margarito was a series that was perfect for two episodes and for that reason stood out from most others.

For full-length series, Mayweather-Hatton was the best. Show has nose-dived since then.

 

mosley's toughness is in doubt because of fights when he was 37 years old or whatever he was against mayweather jr and pacquiao?

 

Judah is also a southpaw who happens to be a hell of a boxer.... He just does not have a chin or heart. Also, unless he's butterbean, winning the first four rounds means nada.....

 

it was in doubt the night he had the chance to exact his biggest and most important revenge and chose to initiate even more clinches than Vernon "The Python" Forrest

Mosley becomes a real nice guy in the ring when he's up against it

 

I was never even the slightest fan of Floyd until Shane hurt him. At that moment you kind of got a glimspe of what Mayweather is made of. He planted his feet and got in Shane's face and mind.

It was one of the cooler moments of Money's career in my opinion.

 

Floyd has been hurt a few times in his career.

 

Even though I don't give Cotto a chance in hell to win this fight, if he hurts Floyd the way Mosley did, Cotto, unlike Shane, will give his all to finish him.

 

There's no hope for you.

 

I meant physically tough. Difficult to stop in other words. I thought this was clear from the context.

 

Shane did too. You seem to forget. Floyd just recovered quickly and discouraged Shane's assault with hard punches accurate punches of his own. Cotto cannot take punches as good as Shane and so he's likely to be even more discouraged once Floyd starts hitting him. Floyd hits much harder than his KO% suggests.

 

well, "tough" and "durable" are not necessarily the same thing

 

I was extremely impressed with PBF in the Mosley fight. He really showed heart, It was great to see. Also, I respected him for his post-fight comments. For me , however, as muc as I consider him an unbelieveable talent, his fear of Manny will always count against me being a fan of him as a fighter.

 

Thank you! I have always said that. People get caught up in the hate of his personality and his defensive prowess, they just don't give him credit for his punching power.

He does not need the one punch knockout power! Part of being an effective counter puncher, which Floyd is, is discouraging fighters from punching when they feel like it. He hurts their ass and he's accurate. Floyd walks fighters down, period! Cotto will be no different.

 

And? I never said Floyd had never been hurt before. I just said his reaction to being hurt by Shane impressed me.

 

Floyd priolly has a longer snake than cotto

 

floyd will run once he feels cotos power

 

Wisdom.

There's a precedent for this of course. The moment he felt Mosley's power, getting his brains rattled in the process, he ran like a bitch for the rest of the fight.

 

There is precedence in fact. Not the Mosley fight, or the Judah fight. But the ODH fight.

But alas, PBF has made sure he's never again faced an opponent like ODH (even a over-the-hill version). So he likely will not go into a shell against Cotto the way he did against ODH.

But I don't blame PBF for fighting smart when he has to. I personally didn't think he was impressive against ODH, and that he arguably lost. But that's a lot better than the alternative which would've been a wide loss had he stood and tried to fight ODH.

What I blame PBF for is picking and choosing opponents he can beat without going into a shell. As a fighter, he shouldn't be in a position to exercise that kind of discretion. But he is and he does. And as a result, there's people like you running around thinking he's invincible.