Dana White still certain UFC unable to conduct its own random PED testing

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  1. Hanz

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    I'm going for my pudding. Then I will answer when I return.
     
  2. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Than required? Sure. They aren't required to do any testing. No league is.
     
  3. Shoeshiner

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    Well then why was Thiago Silva just on a main event? Why is Chael allowed to fight again so soon? Bullshit! Dana is doing NOTHING to discourage PED use.
     
  4. steve_dave

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    Well he's pretty busy.
     
  5. Anthony

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    Im sorry, what is bullshit? Where is Chris Lebman right now?
    I will ask you the same question. does the UFC do more than required testing to it's fighters?
     
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    Technically, yes. But it needs to do more.
     
  7. steve_dave

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    You think that's the point here?
     
  8. Anthony

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    Why? You made a claim that this isnt a problem with the NFL or MLB. You still stand by that? And they do more dont they?
     
  9. steve_dave

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    What?

    Steroids are an issue across the board. That's why MLB and NFL are doing the right thing, going above and beyond what they have to do.
     
  10. Anthony

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    Well what is the point. You claim MLB does more, but how many people have been busted for Peds compared to MMA? What is your point?
     
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    Thiago Silva was suspended for a year. Chael fell into the loophole of TRT, you can't really fault that on the UFC, TRT is kind of in no man's land right now until Athletic Commissions ban it completely. Guys are busted for PEDs in the NFL and receive suspensions. Same with many other sports. Would you like the UFC to do more than suspend them?
     
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    They have been the same thing for the past few years and people are still using. What is your point? You arent going to stop idiots from using. Again, no combat orginzation is being tested as much as the UFC is right now, so IMO, they are doing what needs to be done. You guys are acting as if overeem WASNT caught.
     
  13. Anthony

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    Lebman was suspended by the UFC. the UFC test all their fighters in Overseas events. Becuase there isnt commission to do it. They dont have to do that shit. They do it to pick up the slack where the commission left off.
     
  14. steve_dave

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    I don't claim they do more. I know for a fact they do more. Took them long enough too, the juicing scandal robbed baseball of its credibility for quite a while. You can argue it was only able to bounce back because, well, it's fucking baseball. So much history.

    Random testing does two things. It increases the number of athletes caught cheating and it acts as a deterrent.
     
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    SO many fewer are using in baseball man. Of course people are always going to try to cheat. Make it as difficult as possible.
     
  16. steve_dave

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    Fair play to them for that, but commission testing is whack. Most guys can prepare for the test they know is coming before and after the bout.

    That's another perk to random testing. You don't have to use it on every guy for every fight. It's the idea that it COULD be coming that acts as a deterrent in a lot of cases.
     
  17. *Z*

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    Overeem got caught by a random test, this is the first time the NSAC has randomly tested anyone. Makes me wonder why they didn't step up and offer this up to make Floyd vs Manny happen.
     
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    For sure. Random testing if the only way.
     
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    NSAC did ramdom testing. It hasnt been done before. How is that whack? It caught Overeem. Obviously they did something right right?
     
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    No doubt. Random testing is proper. Just saying it should always exist, no matter where they're fighting.
     
  21. Trplsec

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    PED's suck. As a life long baseball fan, they just plain piss me off. Almost every worthwhile record in the sport has been tainted by juicers. And now, due to douche bags like Bonds and Clemens, anytime a guy hits 50 homers or pitches a no-hitter, you start to wonder.

    Hell, just last year didn't Manny Ramirez lose 100 games for his second failed test?

    There needs to be more testing in combat sports but I don't think one specific organization performing test or setting guidelines is the answer. Just as I wouldn't expect the Tampa Bay Devil Rays to test their own roster due to Ramirez.

    There needs to be uniform and global testing rules that are followed by every location sanctioning fights. There almost needs to be an organization similar to the IOC that universal governs. I am not a big fan of athletic commissions having that responsibility as it means nothing outside the US.

    It's a big problem that could certainly undermine the sport but I think the bigger issue will end up being legal cheating in the form of TRT. It gives everyone an excuse for failing random test. And again, there needs to be global guidelines regulated by a unbiased organization to nap the TRT issue.
     
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    I agree, the threat needs to be there or guys will just keep doing this shit.
     
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    As always, Trplsec making good posts.
     
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    Hey Z, let's say me, you and Anthony start a global organization to rid combat sports of PEDs. We can collect sanctioning fees and in return we oversea drug testing in MMA and boxing..


    We can call ourselves, "Prestige Worldwide"
     
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    They do it in tennis. They take it a step further. The ATP literally assigns drug-testers to actually stay in contact with the players regarding their whereabouts. Everyday, the player is obligated to inform the assigned drug tester of where he's going to be that day. The drug tester shows up at the player's house and the player must piss literally in front of the drug tester.

    That's the way drug testing should be done in EVERY sport. Then we'll see who survives when performance enhancing drugs are eliminated entirely.
     
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    Overeem is a f*cking dirty roid freak and should be barred from ever competing in a professional sport ever again.
     
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    I don't even know why it's in a loophole? That shit don't fly in the olympics or any other sport that I know of.
     
  29. Trplsec

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    It basically the same in the NFL and MLB. You can get exemptions for TRT but you can't test over acceptable levels.
     
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    So what is your sentence for someone getting popped? In most sports its a suspension. In MMA, should it be far worse like a lifetime ban?
     

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