UFC sponsoring own fighters

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  1. Shoeshiner

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    So I guess that Jon Jones is going to be sponsored by the UFC. Word of maybe Mir and Overeem getting the same deal. Been seeing lots of debate on this subject recently. Thoughts?
     
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    What it Means is Dana & the Fertitties have Been HOLDING OUT on the Fighters All Along, just as MOST Of Us Suspected...Only UFC APOLOGISTS Co-Signed On or Made Excuses for the Way Most of the Fighters R CRIMINALLY UNDERPAID in the UFC...

    If it's TRUE that UFC is Now SPONSORING their Own Guys, it's a Silent Admission that there's ALWAYS Been a Pool of "EXTRA" to Give to Fighters...What it Also Means is that Fighters will have even LESS Leverage than they Already had....



    REED:Lok:
     
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    Good point.

    Also, I am wondering how it will look when a "UFC" fighter fights a "non UFC" fighter. It almost gives an impression that the UFC will have a vested interest in the success of the sponsored fighter, thus appearing to show favoritism?

    Curious to see the reactions when it happens.
     
  4. *Z*

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    UFC fighter only fight other UFC fighters.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    This makes no sense. I don't get how you came to this conclusion. Whether they have UFC, or TapOut or what ever companies logos on their shorts, they are probabaly making the same money no matter who the sponsor is. ALL UFC fighter have sponsors.
     
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    Not UFC fighters. UFC "sponsored" fighters.
     
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    No they dont, and some sponsorships are bigger than others.
     
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    OBVIOUSLY, a "Sponsored" UFC Fighter MIGHT Carry More SWAY w/the Company, in a CLOSE Fight...




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    It Only "Makes No Sense" if U HONESTLY Think Every Sponsor Can Offer AS MUCH as UFC Can, Dollar for Dollar...Having your Own Sponsor, Independent of UFC, SHOULDN'T B Construed as Making THE SAME Amount as UFC Can Pay...

    Sponsor's Payscales VARY...



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  10. Anthony

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    What do you mean Sway? The UFC doesnt judge the fights.
     
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    Im not sure i understand. Isnt the amount a sponser pays a fighter between the fighter and the sponsor? What does that have to do with the UFC?

    If i were the UFC, i would make it so that anyone that becomes champion gets sponsored by the UFC. And if you lose, you lose your sponsorship. IMO it would give fighters even more incentive.
     
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    Top Rank DIDN'T Judge the Brandon Rios Fight from the Other Night, Either...Don King DIDN'T Judge Whittaker vs. Chavez, Either...




    REED:pathetic:
     
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    What's NOT to Understand???...

    UFC has Deeeeeeper Pockets than the Fly by Night Energy Drink or Vitamin Companies that Typically Sponsor Fighters...



    REED:dunno:
     
  14. *Z*

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    Honestly, I don't think it has anything to do with an admission of "slave wages" as your hero might call it. It is however a conflict of interest.
     
  15. Anthony

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    No i get that, but what does that mean? What does that have to do with anything? What the sponsors pay their clients is between them. If the fighters want more money, find a sponsor with deeper pockets? Although i doubt UFC has deeper pockets than Rockstar or Red Bull. That being said, pay negotiations dont have anything to do with anything.
     
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    It wouldnt be if it was attached to the title.
     
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    it seems pretty shaddy imo. don't know the specific too much but from the look of it, seems like a conflict of interest.

    Could lead to a UFC sponsered fighter getting more favorable matchup or, as Reed mentionned, getting close rounds scored their way more ofte. And even if it don't, the mere thought of it being in fans head hurt the UFC legitimacy.
     
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    Knowing the UFC, they may just be doing it to get rid of other companies names on their fighters.
     
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    LOL.... It's funny how everything the UFC does is considered 'shady' or 'inappropriate'.

    It might end up being all those things but personally I can't draw any conclusions without more details.

    That being said, wouldn't it suck to be fighting a "sponsored" fighter if you're not one yourself ? Does it mean Buffer pronounces your name wrong and Goldberg and Rogan refer to you as Fighter X all night. LOL..
     
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    :l1:
     
  21. Anthony

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    BWAHAHA. Im sorry but that is too much.
     
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    Yeah i dont see it either. But for me to see it, i would have claim the UFC fixes fights. Sorry, i just dont see it
     
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    Of course. I was trying to figure out why they would do this in the first place and that's the answer I was trying to come up with. Not only is the UFC boxing out others in the industry, but their investment must be substantial to be the sole sponsor for a guy 'every other company in the business' wanted to work with.

    I wasn't sure about Reed's point at first, but it does show that the UFC has money laying around. The reason I was having trouble figuring out why the UFC would do this is because it doesn't make much sense for their business...all of these fighters are sponsored by the UFC because they are under contract to them...and they use them for advertising, tv shows, interviews, etc. So why pay one of them extra so that he has no other sponsors? Because you are making so much money that you can afford to keep others from benefitting from your star. And how does it work out if your glory child loses? It doesn't. And there's your conflict of interest.

    From http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...sorship-is-the-way-of-the-future-for-fighters

    For Jones, it's the perfect situation. He explained his reasoning behind seeking the deal in a recent conference call:
    I’ve had a goal of being sponsored by Nike for many, many years. Part of our strategy to try and make that happen one day is not be a billboard – not be sponsored by TapouT one week, and Affliction one week, Muscle Pharm next week and all these random companies. I try to look for long-lasting relationships with companies. So, a part of my brand is to keep it clean. Less is more, in my opinion. So, once FORM Athletics went down, pretty much every company in the business was looking for an opportunity to work with me. I thought it was a real honor, it was awesome, but we came up with a strategy to keep it clean and be sponsored by the UFC itself.
     
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    How would the UFC stop him from losing?
     
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    Who pays the judges? Who selects the the matchups? Oh, and when he does lose, who gets preferential treatment for an immediate rematch?
     
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    The Judges fee gets paid by the promotion, but it's monitored by the commission. There is usually a set price for an event, depending on the size.

    The UFC selects the matchups. What does that mean? So they are going to put Jones in with Less than worthy fighters? How would that even work? Shogun, Machida, Rampage, Evans. Do you think they are going to put him in with a nobody? LMAO!!!

    Immediate rematches are on a case by case basis. The UFC has beeng doing them more and more on recently. to Non UFC sponsored fighters at that.
     
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    Not saying that it happens or will happen. But, leys not pretend that with a vested interest in a fighter and tgat fighters future, there is no way that these things could happen. Whenever there is that much power among a few, anything is possible.
     
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    What would be the benefit of doing it? The UFC can demand every fighter walk to the ring in a UFC shirt if they wanted to. How would the UFC be hurt if a UFC sponsored fighter loses? :dunno:
     
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    of course, you're the one who think the judging is impartial since the promotion doesn't select the judges :pathetic::pathetic: I don't expect much more from you

    There's nothing far fetched about seeing the fact that if the UFC sponsored a particular fighter, they want him to be succesfull, in all likelyhood, moreso than one they doesn't sponsored. It's a perfect recipe for shady deals
     
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    Why?
     

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