How does Pacquiao cope with his first PRIME African American Fighter?

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I just thought it was a nice tie-in in a Six Degrees of Separation tangent, but you roasted me quite nicely. ::

 

Sly, you are really a fucking idiot. Bradley fights nothing like this "Slick african american" that you describe. You truely are the biggest retard on this board.

Just saying this bullshit makes you a racist. Being an african american doesn't make you fight a certain way, that is some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Let's see here. Couple of "African Americans" Lamont Peterson, Floyd Mayweather, Tim Bradley, none of these guys fight alike, not even close. People fight how they fight and it has NOTHING to do with being afican american.

 

Damn do I hear excuses as to why Pacman might lose to Bradley? His heart isnt in it. Hes not motivated. Hes past his prime. Damn the pre-fight excuses are already surfacing. The double standard is flowing. By the way Pacman smashes Bradley. I'll Holla 5000

 

Who's making excuses? The same guys that don't like Pac are saying he might lose. I think he's going to knock him out like Hatton. Bradley fights more like white ass Hatton than he does any "African American"

 

So Im just making this shit up. Have posters not said that Manny is not motivate (excuse), have they not said thay his heart isnt into boxing (excuse), have they not said that hes past his prime and that he might lose but if this was 2009 he would kill Bradley. These are all fuckin excuses that people have prepared just in case he loses. As far as Bradleys fighting style you are correct he fights nothing like slick black fighters. I agree hes getting put to sleep. I'll Holla 5000

 

He's clearly, clearly better than Ward. He's an overall better fighter than Judah too, who beat Ward comfortably.

 

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Slick black fighters take testosterone.

 

Yes, he's better than Judah, but the less-skilled but tougher Ward gives Bradley a better fight than Judah does.

 

Probably yeah. Braddles would walk Judah down and beat him up.

 

I said none of this, he's going to wreck Bradley. Everyone is basing this shit on the JMM fight as if they didn't already fight two close fights. JMM just has Pac's number.

 

Pacquaio looks like he's slowed down and is not able to do the things he used to be able to do, like pressure for a full 12 rounds. It looks to me like he's not in his prime anymore. There's no shame in it. Floyd can't move like he did when he fought Corrales. Is that an excuse for Cotto looking better than many thought he would, or is it an observation?

 

Yeah what is this nonsense, is beyond the realm of possibility bigdawg that a 33 year old fighter with the most extreme, high energy style in boxing might possibly be past prime, having been a pro since the age of 15? ::

 

It was pretty clear in the Mosley fight that Manny has slowed down, doesn't have the same legs he used to, or the same workrate and stamina, or fighting desire. The Marquez fight only highlighted that.

He's still one of the best in the world, but he's not the same fighting machine that obliterated Oscar, Hatton and Cotto.

 

Very true, but the 3rd fight was very different to the first 2. It was a slower paced boxing match, both guys looked past prime, and Manny especially looked slower and took far less risks than the first 2 fights. He fought smarter and boxed with Marquez, but he wasn't prepared to go all out for the win, and that is key, he's not prepared to take the same risks now to win a fight as he used to. Which is why Bradley could pull the upset.

 

He beat the shit out of Mosley, and nobody stops Mosley. He fought Margarito at 150 and basically ruined his career. He's just fought tougher guys since Hatton and Cotto.

 

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No, anyone with eyes should be able to see Manny is not the same. He's slowed down physically for starters, regardless of what you think about his fighting desire or opponents or whatever. Watch the Cotto and Hatton fights and then watch Mosley and Marquez. Still quick, but he's slowed down significantly, especially footspeed, he doesn't have the same legs he did, or the same energy/workrate.

Which again, is to be expected, shouldn't exactly come as a surprise should it? He's 33, been fighting as a pro since he was about 15 or 16, and has the quintessential young man's style.

I'm amazed anyone WOULD still expect Pacquiao to be prime.

 

I'm not saying he's not declining, he's getting older. I'm just saying it has as much to do with who he fought as it does him declining. I certainly don't think he's anywhere near shot.

 

Yup, Manny isn't the same fighter he was a few years back. It's not like we've only been saying it in hindsight after the Marquez fight.

 

Sly should break down the "African American" Style for us. I don't get it personally, people fight differently, being black and american certainly doesn't make you fight a certain way. So I'd like to hear what makes this style and some examples of current fights who employ this style.

 

LMAO @ Irish and Mex saying Bradley is better than Ward.

Ward is a better fighter than Bradley in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE.

 

Depends on what Ward you're talking about, pretty sure they are talking about Mickey Ward, not Andre.

 

Oh. Didn't read much into it. Just saw the name Ward. Didn't know they were talking about the Irish punching bag.

If so, Bradley is 2 light years better than MICKEY WARD was.

 

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Don't get me wrong, me neither, he's nowhere near shot. I think both him and Floyd have declined equally, it's just that Floyd's style is way more suited to slowing down a bit.

All I'm saying is it's downright crazy to think Pacquiao hasn't declined or slowed at all, as crazy as thinking he's shot.

 

That's fair, and I agree.

 

I think Cotto looked better than expected against PBF maybe because PBF has no business fighting at 154. Hell the dude was 3lbs lighter than Cotto and who knows how much smaller entering into the ring. According to Floyd he lost weight and got back down to 147. If thats the case then Cotto was a full weight class bigger than Floyd that is if Cotto didnt put any weight on after the weigh in. I'll Holla 5000

 

Floyd didn't lose weight after the weigh in. What did he do starve himself until the fight?