Andre Berto tests positive

Berto is a dumb ass plain and simple. I read that he is saying that he has no idea how he tested positive and that he wants answers! :l2:

Peterson can at least say his doctor gave him the Testosterone pellets. Even if he tried to cheat he can fall back on that.

Berto doesn't have a leg to stand on. According to Victor Conte, Berto himslef admitted to recently taking some supplements not provided by Conte.

So I guess he has to blame someone else.

 

on the undercard of Ortiz vs Khan

 

Hahhahah. I guess floyd is cleaning up the sport after all. Just imagine all the fighters that gotten away wit cheating. Fuckin idiots. I'll Holla 5000

 

This enhances Floyd's legacy.

 

Berto vs Alexander should take one of the dates. I love a good boxing circus show. The poster can be the two of them bursting out button down shirts and turning neon green

 

Its a good idea

 

Freddie Roach: "Peterson could have killed somebody".....

..boxing is shot.

 

This. Boxing is fucked- the playing field is nowhere even near even anymore. Now it comes down to who got the best chemist.


Khan took some criticism for complaining about the defeat which cost him his WBA and IBF world light-welterweight titles. He has his answer now: 'I had to make an issue of it because people thought I had lost fair and square, while I just knew something was wrong. In a way I'm glad the truth has come out and people can see that I was cheated.

 

I'm inclined to agree too, Pacquiao, Marquez and probably Khan did it professionally, there are surely others like this too.

Peterdude and Berto are simply 2 morons who obviously didn't have the help of a seasoned PED pro, they both got caught with urine tests too didn't they?

 

Yep it was urine tests on both of them.

Its ridiculous. I mean I dont doubt Berto was on something. Peterson Im still skeptical of his case. Something doesnt seem right. Feeling like he was set up.

Anyhow, so many of these clowns are on something. Khan, Ortiz, Marquez for that last fight for sure. Hopkins Ive had suspicions about for a few years now. And plenty of others.

Have to admit, PBF was on to something the whole time.

 

How could Peterdude have been setup? He admitted to taking testosterone pellets, and of course used the standard MMA excuse that his testosterone is low, and it's used as TRT.

 

What whole time? The whole time he wouldn't fight Pac? That whole time? When did Floyd turn pro? 1997 or 2007?

 

Its very simple. He takes a test and fails it. The other guy takes a test and passes it. Is Khan clean? Come on. Khan now playing the Mayweather Sr. card about Peterson taking his punches all night to no deleterious effect. Trying to make out that Peterson looked like Henry Armstrong in there, winging shots all night. Its bogus.

Oscar and Schaefer are running this and making out that they have their eye on everyone all at the same time.

Now, as I originally claimed, the move is made to have the first Khan vs Peterson fight struck from the record, as if it never happened.

And a guy whom many suspect to be the chief PEDmeister of them all, Freddie Roach, is running around talking about how others are on the gear and might get somebody hurt. Convenient ruse that.

 

THIS...

In the Court of PUBLIC Opinion, it's Probably to the Point that NO Prizefighter Can Be Trusted...Even MMA is Suffering Similar Fates...Before Looooooong, Random Testing will Almost HAVE to Become the Norm in Boxing....



REED:hammert:

 

Yes, Pacquaio is looking like a cheater because two guys who were never suspected of cheating have failed tests that they volunteered. OK. :shit:

 

Threads on PEDs are never complete without Irish spamming with laughably ignorant bullshit and idiotic conspiracy theories, always involving Amir Khan.

 

Or Manny Pacquaio, or Freddie Roach, or Oscar de La Hoya, in fact lots of people not called Khan at all.

 

Irish, you are going a bit Petre with the conspiracy theories.

The idea Peterdude was setup is just, nonsensical. How and why would he be setup? And how would he be forced to take them, and then admit he took them? ::

I think quite simply, Peterdude and Berto took PEDs and got caught.

 

Where did I say he was forced to take PEDS or anything like that?

Its a question of deciding who does or doesn't get caught, who is in kahootz with who.

I already asked why he would admit to taking stuff.........if he doesn't know what he took....how can he admit to taking it.......

The word "setup" {I think Puerto Rock was using it, more than me anyways} would, for me, allude to Peterson failing a test that others {Khan, Pac, etc} are passing or have passed.

Ironically, Khan said that Peterson did a urine test BEFORE the first fight which went missing, and that this was proof of how something was up. Then the guy fails a test, and Khan says that this is proof that something was up. Khan would say that X was proof of "something being up" if he felt like it. If anyone went gaga over a conspiracy, it was Khan.

What I am alluding to is that, particularly in the case of Ortiz, we got guys who most people suspect are juicing are passing the fucking tests, but these grubby, try-hard dudes like Peterson are suddenly established, long-term juicers? :dunno:

I think G wanted OUT of the entire Peterson affair, one way or the other. This is perfect, as it now retrospectively removes the stench of Khans first performance, where he was shown up as a relatively clueless pug.

 

You're insinuating G had something to do with Peterdude failing a test right? I just don't see how.

 

I normally hate conspiracies, but G is starting to make Don King look like the best thing to ever happen to boxing.

Take one example, and I may be just pulling this out of my ass for all I know. Somebody correct me if my timeline is wrong.

Shane Mosley - Tests positive against G fighter (De La Hoya), joins G, and never tests positive again.

Whole thing just seems fishy, and I would have never even thought of it before the last couple months.

 

Mosley never tested positive. He admitted to steroid usage years after his victory over DLH. Vargas, on the other hand, tested positive and never joined G.

 

No no.....its blindingly obvious what I am alluding to. Why did Peterson pass the first test and failed the 2nd one? The version I have is that he passed the first, failed the second, then admitted to an infringement for the first when news of the second one broke.Now, thats very circuitous behaviour.

Since when did any of us have Peterson booked as a ped-head?

Since when did he turn in a Ped-head performance, a la what Mayweather Sr would define as same?

Now, we are told he took something for the rematch that he shouldn't have. Then we are told he took something for the first fight too....but how many people here had that performance booked as a steroid-inspired performance? :dunno: It was the epitome of workmanlike. A diligent effort.

I am not saying that he didn't legitimately fail a test. I am looking more at the retrospective admission of earlier wrongdoing. Whats the story there?

Now we are told in addition, that two guys who we would more readily book as abusers have passed tests that their would-be opponents have failed, and that Floyd is cleaning up boxing and that Khan never really lost to

 

OK fair enough but what part seems fishy exactly? What do you actually think is going on?

I don't deny AT ALL that G are extremely dodgy, look no further than the ref in the Mares fight for evidence of that, and Shaefer is a slimeball, and they are also highly hypocritial.

It's just that in the Peterdude example, I don't see how it is anything other than Peterdude taking testosterone supplements and getting caught, he even admitted it.

 

Look, if I fail a test, what am I going to do? Denials Denials Denials....at the very least, I am not going to suddenly admit to some established pattern of wrongdoing. His first performance in the Khan fight was so decidedly original and non-spectacular.....he was arguably floored twice int he first round and won by dint of wailing away manfully and carrying the fight forward as much as he could. It was the most understated "dirty" win I've ever seen.

 

I read he failed 2 tests. What is unclear though exactly is whether he was supposed to have taken them for the first fight or in training for the second fight.

I agree, it didn't exactly seem like an "enhanced" performance, it was just a workmanlike outhustling of Khan, taking advantage of his non existant in fighting ability.

 

Well, his excuse was the standard excuse for testosterone, it's commonplace in MMA, they say they need it as TRT for low testosterone. Probably better than denying everything, that's just silly.

Also, do you think G is paying him to admit it or what? I don't see how they would play a hand there, really.

 

Yes, my understanding was that Mosley sort of had an answer dragged out of him over time by a hearing or panel.

Again, thats redolent of the Peterson situation. Peterson fails a test and the first thing he does is come out with a story about how he's been at it before?

Doesn't add up. And none of his performances {a draw and a blood'n'guts decision} were actually suggestive of juicing.

How many people here called Peterson out as a juicer?

 

Ask Khan. He said Petersons first sample for their first fight "went missing". Lets take Khan at his own word.....its possible G knew along, let it slide, didn't like the result, didn't like that they had failed to get the fight overturned, then called it on the 2nd result, and also parlayed that into some form of retrospective justice to erase the stench of the first fight.

Throw in the fact that the only guy who has shown an increase in his own recuperative faculties is Khan, and, well, figure it out.

I am aware of the excuses used. Toney had the same excuse, the difference is he had all the hacks on board, HBO etc, helping get the story out about how his pituitary gland got knocked out of place. :shit:

 

Khan doesn't look like a juicer to me. Certainly not an obvious juicer if he is.