Khan vs Ortiz

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Zero chin vs Zero heart.

    Which gives out first?
     
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    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

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    I think khan's chin gives out before Ortiz's heart.
     
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    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    its really a must see fight. would be great as the main undercard for a ppv
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Probably.

    I'd root for Khan though. Victoria is a disgrace.

    But Khan simply wouldn't be able to handle any flush shots from Victoria.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I agree and was about to start a thread on the very subject. It would be fantastic as a main support although, I think Khan would be a huge underdog.
     
  6. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Other than a Malignaggi rematch, I don't know who else Khan beats.

    Pac, Floyd, Bradley, Alexander, Ortiz, and Berto would all stop him.
     
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    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Ortiz would beat the shit out of Khan. Ortiz hits too hard to put Khan in with. Ortiz would hurt Khan without trying.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Khan rehydrated to only 148. Maybe it isn't as much about the weight.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    It's not. Fucker just has no chin. Khan isn't really a welterweight anyway. His size is overrated as Hell.

    When Oscar was at 140, he was HUGE and you could tell he was really a welter. But that's not the case with Khan. Amir is a natural junior welter.
     
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    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    This is an easy fight to make...both are with Golden Boy. It could be a loser leaves town match.
     
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    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

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    Another great observation by freak. :Thumbs: :shit:
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Fuck you, faggot.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    At this point, what options are really there for them?

    Both have been exposed for frauds several times now. It's extremely apparent now that neither one will ever be a superstar, or elite.

    They might as well fight eachother.
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    His chin is shit, but his punch reaction is like a guy who is overtrained or lost too much weight. Ultimately, we are in agreement although I don't think he is a natural 140 pounder. I see a smallish Welter, but he is large for 140. He doesn't look like one to me. Either way, Khan will get kayo'd routinely no matter what the weight. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. It could be both.
     
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    Jab Hook Leap-Amateur

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    Stop making excuses for him dummy, He had the same reaction (chicken dance) in the amateurs where they fight with headgear. :laugh11:
     
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    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    There was nothing funny about your comment. If you are going to stalk me you should at least know, I detest Amir Khan. Slurp another dick, Britney.
     
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    Aren't you the same douche who claimed extra gauze makes your punches harder? :laughing:
     
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    they fought as ams and khan stopped him
     
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    id pick khan to beat ortiz and alexander. khan already beat ortiz in the ammys, alexander isnt better than khan. i think he would give bradley a lot of problems, so does timmy since he turned down the fight due to risk. i hate when a fighter loses then is labelled a bum straight after.
     
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    Khan beats Ortiz again
     
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    Ortiz would shit on Khan's chest
     
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    Please don't lump Alexander in with the rest of those fighters. Alexander is nothing, even Khan would beat him comfortably.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Khan would have a chance against Ortiz if he can learn any defense. But since its not likely, you have to figure its a fight Khan would be winning early and then LIGHTS OUT. One big counter from Ortiz and its good night.

    I find it mind boggling how Freddie Roach has not come close to correcting Khan's defensive holes.

    Is this the best trainer in the world?:pointlaugh:
     
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    Not sure why you keep saying that. Khan is just a stupid fighter, with no ring IQ at all. Is Roach supposed to correct Khan's chin too?

    I think Roach has done as good a job as anyone would have done with Khan.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I'm far from a Khan fan.

    But even you have to admit that the shit he was doing in there was straight up ROOKIE mistakes.

    Its basic fundamentals to not drop your hands that low when you punch. This is before you even get to talk about Khan's chin.
     
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    You'd have to favour Ortiz.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    ORTIZ....A fight I always wanted to see...now it's closer to happening. I don't care what happen in the amateurs.


    Maybe in December...in the Cotto vs Canelo undercard??? :bears::bears:
     
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    Chisora & Khan both went down like EA animations
     
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    :lol: Good spot
     
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    I don't disagree with any of that, I guess my point is just that Khan has looked like the same fighter ever since the amateurs. He is a boxbot, he has no ring smarts at all.

    I honestly believe no other trainer could do a better job, Khan just has the IQ of a fencepost, I don't think he is capable of becoming anymore skilled and clever in the ring.

    It would be like trying to teach Mayorga to fight like wald pussy, it's simply not going to happen.
     

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