Foreman brawling with Holyfield. Round 7

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  1. Rainmaker

    Rainmaker "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    At the age of 42 he has a great brawl in round 7 with Evander Holyfield. He hurt Holyfield with a hard right hook in the beginning of the round. Foreman was a tank. A young Foreman would have trashed Holyfield imo.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu1sNeSo984
     
  2. Irish

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    No. Prime George is a bit of old George and a bit of young George. Young George might well have gotten countered silly by a prime Evander. George hated counter punchers and gassed very early in his fights. Youtube the Peralta fight for how badly young George would have done with Evander. Also, George himself admits avoiding Jerry Quarry, who had the chin, balls and counterpunching skills to give George fits.

    If George had stuck at his boxing from 1977 onwards, I think it would have been him fighting Cooney in 1982 and not Holmes.
     
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    He 'd never fight Holmes. Holmes would have schooled him.
     
  4. Irish

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    I think that a mature George, which he would have been in 1980's, with still a lot of his youthful physicality remaining, could have matched Holmes jab and given him hell. George had power but he also had a very stiff jab and a solid chin. I think its a lot lot more than a boxer vs a puncher, I really think George could have posed quite a few problems for Holmes.

    One think is for sure- Larry Holmes of 1982 slaps George Foreman of 1973 all over the place. Holmes could not have cared on whit for Georges stupid style of the early 70's.
     
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    I agree with Ike: Holmes would have outboxed and taken him out in the later rounds when Foreman would had run out of gas. But a Foreman punch could have decided the fight at any given round too.
     
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    The 42 year old Foreman would have KO both of the Klits brothers of today.
     
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  8. Irish

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    Nobody is KO'g Vitali. Stoppage on cuts maybe but nobody is putting him to sleep.
     
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    wald pussy's chin is always a dangerous proposition for him... old George could still hit... I suppose if he stays in hardcore wald pussy mode, he can just jab some and hug a lot and everything will be okay for him.

    As for the only Klitschko worth discussing...

    I think Vitali hits old George at will, really

    The old guy was durable as hell, he could still rattle with his punches and he was game, but he was also ponderously slow, not terribly difficult to find and he had to REALLY pace himself. He takes a 12 round drubbing from Vitali, maybe making it fun once in a while with a thudding, head-snapping jab, but nothing Vitali can't handle. That's a 119-109, 118-110 type of fight AT BEST for old man Foreman, and he'd be swollen as hell at the end.
     
  11. Irish

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    Vitali is all wrong for George II. George would go blind thru swelling, Vitali is just way too active and accurate for George to make it out of there. With Wlad, there is always the chance of something big landing but truthfully George was just too slow. Small stupid Moorer had him beat before he blew it.
     
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    73-74 Foreman would have beaten the shit outta Holy.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    I think ya'll overrate Larry a bit, and I love Larry

    Young Foreman would have knocked the shit out of Evander, for sure
     
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    agREED on both.

    Holmes was one of the best, there's no doubt about that. But he was hardly untouchable, even in his prime, and got into trouble against lesser fighters than Foreman.
     
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    damn Holy sure did make fights alot more difficult than they should have been
     
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    Made for great television.
     
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    Yeah, I concede Holmes could win, but the idea of him schooling Foreman seems crazy to me
     
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    Foreman had a jab and by 1982 he would have been far wiser as a fighter. A good chin, a good jab, plenty of height and reach, great power, solid experience, nah.....there is no way he is getting "Schooled" by anyone. Not by 1982.
     
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    Agreed. Tommy Morrison wasn't exactly Lamotta in the chin dept and he easily decisioned old George. Tommy did box and use lateral movement a lot more than we saw of him previously, but the chin weakness was still there. Obviously Wlad wouldn't be using the same kind of movement Morrison did but he'd be just as difficult to hit because of his height and jab. You have to get to the chin before you can expose it.

    Before anybody bothers bringing up the retired golfer, and says "yeah but if Sanders could KO Wlad than George could too"

    At the same time Sanders wouldn't beat old Foreman. Different styles, approach, height and speed. Old patient Foreman could be kept at the end of a jab, Sanders couldn't (for the early rounds)
     
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    prime foremen would of kill oldiefyeld

     
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    yup
     
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    Old Foreman deteriorated allot through his second spell. Big difference between a fresh 38 y/o and a 45 year old. Bigger infact than the difference between a 38 y/o and 31 y/o. Just sayin'
     
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    A very important, often overlooked point.
     
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    foremens to big to powrfel to aggresif i think in my mind holyfyeld bow down to prime foremens
     
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    True. Today alone proves how good you can be at 38, if you're relatively fresh. Marquez, Martinez, Hopkins age 38, even Floyd is 35, I bet he'll still be elite age 38.

    But needless to say, there aren't many elite 45 year olds.
     
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    Even Hopkins is pretty dogshit physically by this point
     

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