Khan-Garcia: Final picks

mikE :atu:

 

MiKE isn't even worth it.

 

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im sure it is only a matter of time before a primera-khan mythical matchup is made

 

I hate Norris with a passion because I thought he devoted much of his career to picking on old, shot welterweights but KNOW this:

He was a BRILLIANT combination puncher with terrific pop in both hands, he was fluid and intelligent in his offensive decision making, able to vary his attack considerably ... he had tremendous hand speed, he had GREAT footwork, he had fine skills on defense and an excellent sense of distance. He was good on the attack and good on the outside with his jab and his excellent movement.

Of the above, Khan has exactly ONE comparable skill-- hand speed. And I would think Norris's hands were still considerably faster and he had a lot more dig on them.

Khan has lousy footwork, his defense is sub-par, his balance is bad... he routinely leaves himself vulnerable to the most basic counter punches by virtue of not really having any idea of direction, distance and where/how to move his feet. Offensively, his sense of distance is suspect as well. He will routinely overshoot or come up short with punches. When he is pressured, he has no idea what to do, frequently turning his whole body and trying to hop in the other direction (which, of course, does not work and leaves him MORE vulnerable, which then necessitates his blatantly illegal tactic of hooking his arms under the chest of his opponent and leaning on his back in order to prevent himself from getting hit)

He has a chin arguably worse than Norris's (but that is at least debatable, subjective) so they have that problem in common. HOWEVER... one needs to look at the KO losses of each. Norris was KOd because he was an arrogant, extremely talented and very skillful fighter who had NO respect for his opponents and was convinced he could overwhelm them with his speed, skill and power. He was acting like the outcomes were foregone conclusions when he was rendered unconscious by Jackson and Brown. He got hit because he let his guard down and got cocky.

Khan has been KOd because he is defensively flawed, he is vulnerable to certain punches. He has his other loss because of this same issue (along with the illegal activity described above) ... Khan wasn't fighting cocky or overconfident, he simply got caught because he is open to get caught... he has appeared that way from the beginning but only in his more recent fights has he gone up against fighters game enough or fresh enough to go for it.

Khan has some hand speed, he has a little bit of pop. That's about it. It's an insult to Terry Norris to compare the two at all. Anyone who has even an elementary understanding of Boxing ought to be able to see a world of difference between the two.

I'm not surprised that the big bullshitter would have the audacity to say something so outrageous and patently foolish.

what an idioT

 

There really is no comparison, none whatsoever. They both have fast hands. It's possibly the most retarded comparison I've ever heard. It's like saying Augie Sanchez is like Juan Manuel Marquez because they both have good left hooks.

Half the time Khan is flailing around like a Baby Deer. He is very basic offensively, and has no defense.

Khan has handspeed, range, and heart, that's it.

 

For an Olympic medalist, Khan makes some terribly routine errors. Things like not keeping his hands up, pulling back with his chin up, punching too wide in the exchanges.

 

Carl Froch was misquoted when he said that Khan should retire, leading Khan to respond in anger. This is what Froch actually meant (damn papers trying to stir :shit:)

"Amir was reacting to a misquote that was put to him. What I actually said was that if that happened to me id retire, but im 35 years old. If i was Amir of course id be regrouping. I turned professional at 25. its a totally different ball game at that age.

At 25 he's still got some of his best years ahead of him physically. Mentally its a tough defeat to get over, but he's done it before following a devastating knock-out by(breidis) Prescott.

He knows he's got a vulnerability and that his punch resistance isn't very good, so what he needs to do is adjust his style.

He should use his range, fast hands and fitness to move around like he used to do. I don't know why he seems to get involved in tear-ups."

 

They both had less than stellar chins, but Khan doesn't have Terry's accuracy, footwork, ability to box on the outside, finishing ability, defense (when he used it), or level of opposition at this point let alone success against that level of opposition.

Norris unified titles against Paul Vaden, doing crazy shit like slapping Vaden's punches out of the air. Norris also defended his titles a number of times. Other than fast hands and dodgy chins, they don't really compare.

 

I think one could also make the argument that Jackson and Brown not only were better fighters than Khan and Prescott, but possibly even hit a touch harder.

 

Sugarist bullshit. Garcia hits just as hard as Jackson.What evidence do you have to support this. Basically, Amir Khan and Terry Norris are the same fighter because they have one quality in common and therefore all.

 

I don't have "evidence" like you people want. I just know it in my heart.

 

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Yup.....Khan fights like a guy that learn to box at a late age. His footwork is horrendous, his stance and balance are total shit. He can just barely every now and then throw a right hand without being off balance.

For a fast handed fighter he is Vitali like stiff.

 

I think Khan should leave Freddie roach
Kahn is terrible

Roach said " he got off the game plan and got emotional"

BS!!!

Getting emotional doesn't mean looking like an amateur, coming in with wide punches and not protecting your chin!

Also.. For a guy his height he kinda jumps in and out when he doesn't have to! If he used a jab and actually BOXED he would do good with his speed etc

 

You Took the Words OUT of REED's Mouth...

This is REED's 1st Messageboard Comment on the Fight & that's Due to Him STRUGGLING w/what Happened...All that Can Be Deduced is that Khan has a Glass NECK, as that was THE Shot that Altered the Fight Entirely...



REED:mj:

 

Technically, it landed on the mandible. It is still the jaw. The shot that dropped him for good was a shot on top of the head. Bottom line, if you are a professional fighter and you are getting dropped with any sort of weird shot, you might want to pick a new career. The initial neck/mandible shot was not a kayo shot.

 

Garcia and Prescott. Also Norris was really skilled at fighting inside. I'm watching the Paul Vaden fight and it was just a whitewash. Vaden had skill, but he looked like he had never fought before. He had no answers for Norris whatsoever.

 

Neck shots can fuck you up....
http://youtu.be/tQ4DAyu5yXc?t=28s

 

All REED Can Say in Response is that he's NEVER Seen a Guy Eventually LOSE a Fight, Due to a Shot in the Same Location...Khan REACTED like he was Drilled Square on the Chin, so There's Something to What You Say for Sure...

The Ensuing Knockdowns were Courtesy of Customarily Landed Punches, but REED is Hard Pressed to Recall ANY Fight that was Completely ALTERED via 1 Clean Punch to the Neck/Mandible...



REED:dancingBaby:

 

In the 7th round, near the beginning, Norris uses his left glove to pick off Vaden's jab a number of times and then uses his right to pick off Vaden's right hand a number of times. Considering how good Vaden was as an amateur, watching Norris treat him like a really shitty sparring partner is quite impressive.

 

Lol @ GLASS NECK
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I agree it landed mostly on his neck, but I think it definitely partially touched his jaw

 

Holy fuck, check out this bout at about 3:25. That is one of the most awkward landings ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S12Wq1SjO3M&feature=related

 

Garcia KO4

 

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u ever seen hearns vs andrew maynard?

 

Man, it has been a bad year for Bolton ::

 

Put your hand on your neck and slide it up until you feel a hard bony structure just underneath and to the behind of your earlobe. Thats the "Mastoid Process" and it hurts like hell if you get hit there. I am pretty sure thats where Gatti hit Ward in their 2nd fight in the third round.

 

I just read on Wikipedia that Mickey Ward made $3m from the 3 fights with Gatti. Disgusting. Khan was on that sort of cash for shite like Limond or Barrera.