To date, of the 2008 gold medal winners, only Felix Diaz 12-0 (6) James DeGale 12-1 (9) and Rakhim Chakhkiev 14-0 (11) have gone pro. In the past, we used to be able to claim 'strong era' because the Soviets and Cubans would win gold, but not go pro, but the failed Americans could win world titles, anyway. Then mix in the successful Americans and it was 'better'. In 2008, we couldn't buy a decent American and the only one with a claim, Wilder, is 23-0 (23) and is doing just fine. So is the claim it's a weak era because the olympians aren't successful or is it a weak era because of the fighters in the Olympics? It is never fair to judge a current era to a past one because people put on the rose glasses for the past.
I think Chakhiev probably is the best of the guys who went pro. The top 2008 oly prospects didn't go pro...shiming, lomachenko, tischenko
I was just making an observation, really. But the weaker Olympic crop of 2008 fits in with my belief that the talent pool in boxing has declined over the last 5-8 years, as well. It has declined more severely in the USA, but also has declined overall.
the way he is fighting now i think its safe to assume he would have won 4 gold medals so i'll classify him as the greatest amateur eva
Oh no. I feel another ear-warming coming from everyone's favourite Americaphile, Loadedstationwagons.
Look East, gentlemen, look East. The American model is broken. The Chinese make money by selling a billion units at 1p profit per unit. The Americans try to bet the ranch on the widest odds. Broner is a good example. We don't need a Broner, we need a 1000 guys all fighting for the same scraps, just like back in the day.
11-1 ::, you funny He is having promotional issues, it's well documented. Adonis probably knew this which is why he suddenly got brave.
Calling me an Americaphile is like calling Ricky Hatton an Anglophile, it doesn't make a lot of sense since those are basic aspects of our identities to begin with. You, however, are a definite Americaphile and how that manifests itself on this forum is a frequent source of amusement for me
I hope to keep you amused, I hope it prevents you from sliding into murderous melancholy. When I see Neil's posts, an image of Howard Cosell pops into my mind, an old lecherous queer with a predilection for young black dick. <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/cBRi-jpM3jU?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
This is the worst attempt/stretch at an insult ever. It seems like you're trying to imply I'm an emo terrorist. I don't think such things exist. Also, a European talking about murderousness on an ethnic basis is sort of rich, isn't it? I know you're not Anglo, but hey, I'm not Arab or Salafi either.
That was three days ago. How long does it take you to find work? Or what passes for it anyways. Try to keep up Susie.
Look East for your hope in Boxing. Look East. Distrust not the dowdy Asiatics, for they are fine fellows also.
Welding and steel prep in an industrial estate near Greenford. Pay is poor, around $500 USD per week but I will be acquiring new skills I can go anywhere with.
Thank you. I had to dress up like an industrial worker and walk around with my own welder before they gave me the job. Do you know what $500 usd is in £stg? Around 12 quid.:doh: 4 days on and 4 days off means I can probably get another job to go with it. Yay I am an immigrant slave.ld:
You are either greatly overestimating or mildly underestimating your facility with the English language.
As I was saying before, I got tired of the fat existence. My sister lives over here and basically she said that if I wanted to try something new I could move in to her husbands old house, pay a nominal rent, and throw my eye over the World, so to speak. Its something I should have done when I was a teenager. Instead, back then, like every other kid, the system had its hand down my pants {think Cosell and Leonard} and I was rushing to do this and that and the other, and I missed out on the fun things in life, like skills such as welding, soldering, etc. Electric bikes gave me a rare window into what I had missed out on, and suddenly it dawned on me that the suit and the mobile and the supposedly "great jobs" were in fact a load of bollox. Where is the point when you are gulping down coffee laced with sugar, both of which were picked by a child who was paid fuck all, in order to rush off to some job which involves saving some fat fuck £4000 a year on his taxes and being told by some spiritless cunt of an estate agent that this house is worth X Y and Z. I am tired of being surrounded by these people. Hut alluded to it when he mocked Khan- the craftless, decadent, can't-scratch-my-own-bollox mentality of so many people in the West. I wanted to get away from that, if only for a bit. My sisters husband is a Barrister, I know that is where I will finally head back, but when I get there, its more than likely going to be low-paid stuff. I've given up on money. I wouldn't swap a lifestyle with lots of exercise and sleep and fun for an extra £20,000 a year, honestly I wouldn't. I've spent the last few days piecing together a work plan and got some work, and the weather has been insane, so I am glad I have had time to ogle the big-titted Indian/West-Indian lovelies up here. I saw a black chick yesterday, no face, no tits, but an ass you could play chess on. Marvellous.
Sounds like we have similar views. I have a normal job now and look 10 yeas younger than some of my frends who are 5 years younger than I am. I was once ambitious, but it is for chumps. You are making the right choice. Doing something tangible is a lot better than pushing papers for rich entitled faggots.
I very much agree with you, it's a great idea. You have to enjoy life, and a rushed, stressed, rat race type of existing doing some pointless white collar job investment banking really isn't worth the extra money over a normal paid but less stressful job. For me the extra money wouldn't even come CLOSE to compensating the miserable, stressed, day to day existence. The job I do now, pay doesn't even have much to do with it tbh, I just love the job, it's hard work but so stress free, I have so much freedom, and essentially no boss.
As a Barrister I won't have any boss either. I foresee a plain existence, taking a few briefs, maybe £40,000 a year, I will be happy. Its the position I enjoy, not the pay. Money is nothing if you can't see you own dick, right?
