B.J. Penn offers to pay for UFC 152 testing if VADA willing to hold results until aft

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  1. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    You sure are. :stir:
     
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    Happened all the time in Pride.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    In open weight GP's. Anything goes in Japan. In the US, that will never be sanctioned.
     
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    Leave it to Mike to dumb down a thread.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Except it happened in regular matchups all the time, too, not just grand prixs.
     
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    Give me a match-up in a weight division other than HW or in a GP where there was a 20 pound weight difference.

    Just curious. It really doesn't matter in this conversation, but I am curious.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It was in Japan, they had freak show fights, everyone was on roids and Pride did what ever they wanted, like special rules that favored the guy they wanted to win. Simply put, Pride was fucking shady.
     
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    Read Sakuraba's wiki. It says he had a 30 lb weight advantage over Royler Gracie along with many 20 lb+ deficits to others.

    In the US, I don't know of any examples offhand, but there will be many, I'm sure. There were too many shows in states with too little regulation to think otherwise.
     
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    Pretty sure Royler's bout with Sakuraba was an open weight fight. Again, not really looking for those.

    Maybe the point wasn't clear enough before, but we're talking about bouts in which fighters had to make a weight limit.

    Apparently you and Anthony thinks it's a common thing, so finding an example shouldn't be that tough.

    Wait, you're not blindly speculating again are you?
     
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    Actually it is kind of tough, because the dont do unofficial weigh ins for MMA. In boxing however, there many times where fighters bulk up 20+ pounds over their opponent. But you already said you didnt have a problem with that. So i let go.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    trplsec, wtf are you talking about? Steroid use is similar to big weight advantages. They let people fight with big weight advantages. You said there are never big weight advantages except in heavyweight. I said that's not true. Now you've tried to refine your point down to what you apparently meant in the first place, but not what you said. It has nothing to do with blind speculation. The whole topic is being sidetracked by you dipshits trying to make points that don't need to be made.

    Either you think a known cheating pos should be permitted to fight if his opponent is okay with it or you don't. While I understand the latter view, I have the former. If you want to circle-jerk over 20 lbs then phrase your point accurately in the first place and I'll stay out of it like I was.
     
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    Dude, could you get any more lost? Seriously? The specific 20 lbs difference came from Anthony and I disputed that differences THAT big happen in classes other than HW.

    And your moronic ass chimed in with "It happened all the time in Pride and not just in GP's".

    Also, since you asked me to phrase my point accurately, tell me how this question could have been ANY fucking clearer:

    Give me an example of someone that out-weighed their opponent by 20 pounds on fight night? Obviously HW doesn't count. My guess is the instances are rare. Almost EVERYONE cuts weight in today's MMA. The disparity isn't commonly 20 pounds. That's ridiculous.

    :lol:

    Again, the 20 lbs number wasn't mine. It was Anthony's and I questioned him on it. And you decided to enter the fray with your typical lack of understanding.

    So, maybe you shouldn't jump into a debate between two other posters unless you have an understanding of the key point. What do you think?

    I promised Anthony I wouldn't get into these type of exchanges with you, but I swear man, it's nearly impossible.
     

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