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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    No doubt, but that doesn't come close to the success he could potentially have in pro boxing.
     
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    salaco Undisputed Champion

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    Thats true, if he was looked after. Hopefully he chooses well in terms of promoters after he wins the gold medal this time around.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Plus he'd gradually start wanting to have sex with women again. :love:By the by.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Is that irish guy Nevin still in the comp? He looked pretty good.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    no weight classes have 64 fighters, the most a weight class has is 32. A lot have just under 32 so that there are a couple of buys to give away. I'm not sure why there aren't 32 in each weight class, but maybe some of the spots get taken by the same fighters...ie by qualifying more than once
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I had Spence winning rounds 2 and 3 by 3 or 4 points each. I had the other guy winning the first by 2 points. I'm not overly impressed with Spence, but he got fucked. I'm not sure the way you fix his fucking is by fucking the other guy, though. Some of the justifications I saw were "well, the other guy held....spit out his mouthpiece...shouldn't have been ahead after 2...lost by more than it showed..." So now a fighter is supposed to ignore the official scoring and fight like he is losing in case someone disagrees with the live scoring later? That is bullshit.

    Oh, and as for the holding...it was pretty bad, but much less than the Iranian who got dq'd...and he never got warned whereas the Iranian was warned constantly. The ref in that fight got fucked, imo.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Good first fight....the puerto rican kid might have stood/bounce around a bit too much....good last round.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Turkey guy should turn pro.....so Rainmaker can ride him.....:ant:
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    No Doubt...

    The U.S. was Taking VERY Good Care of Rau'Shee Warren, who Went to 3 Olympics yet FAILED to Win Even a SINGLE Fight, so Lomanchenko is UNDOUBTEDLY Being Compensated Well Enough to Remain an Amateur...




    REED:dancingBaby:
     
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    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    That's How EVERY Fight SHOULD Be Fought, Pro, Ammy or Whatever...When Guys COAST on a Presumed Lead, the Viewers Suffer & Sometimes the FIGHTER Does as Well...

    Dela vs. Tito, Anyone???...

    This Ties Into the WORST Part of Open Scoring in the Pros...Guys COAST...Similarly, In the Ammy's, a Dude Gets a 1 Point Lead, KNOWS he's Got a Lead & Starts Playing Hide & Seek...THAT is Bullshit...



    REED:fightme:
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    You are missing the point. Instead of your usual m.o., look at what happened and tell us why you think it is just. Do you really think that with open scoring, a fighter should just ignore the scores? Do you really think that without getting any warnings, a fighter should change his tactics because they should be held open to later scrutiny?

    From fightnews.com:
    Spence decision reversed; USA back in business

    After reviewing the video of Bout #142 involving Welterweights (69kg) Krishan Vikas (India) and Errol Spence (USA), the AIBA Competition Jury found that 1) there were a total of nine (9) holding fouls committed by the Indian boxer in the third round alone. However the Referee only gave one caution, and 2) In the second round, at the time 02:38, the boxer from India spit out his mouthpiece intentionally. However the Referee didn’t give any warning. Based on these findings, the Competition Jury Members unanimously decided the following:
    - Decision #1: Based on the AIBA Technical & Competition Rules 12.1.9, the Referee should have given at least two (2) warnings to the Indian boxer.
    - Decision #2: Although the boxer from India intentionally spit out his mouthpiece, the Referee’s view was blocked by the boxer from the USA and was not able to see the action.
    Final Decision: Based on Decision #1, at least four (4) points should have been awarded to the boxer from the USA. Therefore the final score should be 13:15 in favour of the USA. The protest is accepted and the winner of Bout #142 is Errol Spence (USA).
     
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    :bears: Justice!!!!! Thank God Almighty!!!

    NB: Indian kid had failed to join his team at their final camp in Ireland as he......stayed at home to finish his exams.

    The day's coming. :nono:
     
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    Well done Tom Stalker. You won that fight clearly, in fact, if I had been scoring it, your Indian opponent would not have gotten a single point, irrespective of how often he hit you. In fact, you should appeal your win on the grounds that the margin of victory was not wide enough, and that the Indian guy was allowed to hit you back. Shocking.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    All a Brit has to do to win a round by a few points is not get KO'd or knocked down. Starting to fucking piss me off.

    It's something I've always hated about us Brits too, in boxing at least, is despite the Americans being absurdly patriotic in general, they'll call a robbery a robbery.

    Amateur or pro, the Brits generally don't say a fucking word, they have no problem with their guy getting an unfair, gift decision.

    For example - if Bradley was English, the English commentators would have had no problem with him getting the decision.
     
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    Woodhall has an expression for it...."Little bit lucky there, was Tom Stalker", or "little bit fortunate there, was Anthony Joshua, you feel"
    or "close fight this, could be anyone's fight this"......which translates as an admission that he knows what's going on but can't help.

    It Katie Taylor gets robbed I will fucking flip out and kick fuck out of someone.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    As if we stop there.
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    I don't think it is that bad yet, to be honest, but some of the decisions have been questionable to say the least.

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    Feebles, fully half of Team GB should be gone by now if they had been getting it right. And just who invited Lewis in to talk up Anthony Joshua after he got beaten by the Cuban......:dunno: Joshua will win the Gold now, I am sure of it, and go on to become the next Audley. :doh:
     
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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    Joshua is flat out crap, I agree. And there have been some rank decisions.

    MTF
     
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    I absolutely agree, if all the decisions had been legit, I think at least half of them would have been eliminated. That's just ridiculous, for it to be that consistent.

    You're right about Woodhall by the way :lol:

    I forgot about the little things he says, I guess they become engulfed in the wave of epic testicle slurping that is happening simultaneously.

    But yeah at least he says something, the others say nothing at all, in the face of a point blank robbery.

    And don't get me wrong, I want Britain to do well, but fair is fair, I don't care where the other guy is from, if he wins the fight I'm going to want to see him get the decision. I really hate robberies.

    I must say too, these British boxers are disappointing. They're neither here nor there. They all seem very mediocre, and also don't seem to be bringing much drive or passion to the ring. Just going through the motions. Most of their opponents are going for it a lot more, only to get robbed.
     
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    Its not just the decisions, its the attempt to make people watching it look past the bollock-naked emperor and see a three piece suit. For instance, the Indian guy nails Tom Stalker, and its "Kumar missing with punches there, OH GREAT SHOT from Stalker"

    :scratcher: :dunno:
     
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    :lol: I've noticed a fair bit of that...it's funny more than anything else.

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    meetthefeebles Drunken Geordie Bastard

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    I must admit that I'm about the same. I'd read so much about how good the team was, 'best ever GB team', great world championship results, no.1 world rankings and the like, but there have been none that jump out at you and look like real class acts. surprising and disappointing.

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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    To be honest I don't find it funny, I find it sickening. It's almost as annoying as Kellerdude.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Yep same here. Unlike America, boxing has been gaining in popularity in England, and this team was hyped up.

    Then we get presented with this sorry bunch, I mean really? :dunno:
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I thought Joshua nipped Savon. Maybe I need to rewatch it.

    Ogogo was beaten clearly and for the judges to give it to him when you don't even have to account for point system and its quirks and the countback tricks, but to just say you thought he won...that made it even worse.
     
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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Joshua decision was just as bad, it really was. After splitting 2 close rounds, he basically got the shit boxed out of him in the 3rd, getting popped over and over again with clean punches from the Cuban while plodding around.

    I can't believe anyone would think Joshua deserved that.
     
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    I thought Joshua lost; in the third round he took a shellacking and should have lost that round by a lot more than 2 points. Agreed on Ogogo.

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    It's not that bad or blatant, and I think is slightly more excusable in an Olympics when biased commentary is par for the course in almost every sports broadcast.

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    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't know either of the lead announcers' names, but one dude is far worse than the other in regards to homering. The weird thing is, the same guy seems to be in booth whenever a GB boxer is fighting.

    Other than that, though, I've generally enjoyed the BBC broadcast. I think Richie Woodhall is a very good color commentator - when a house fighter isn't in the ring, of course. For the lead announcers, one dude is better than the other (I think one guy is black, the other guy is an old white dude - have only heard them, never seen them), but both are quality.

    As to your earlier note, I agree that there's nothing special w/ the GB squad and it speaks more to the continued issues w/scoring than actual achievement that they have six out of seven men still alive in the quarterfinals.
     

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