William Joppy vs. Michael Nunn @ MW

Assuming Joppy gets a ring with spoonge canvas, how would he fare against Michael Nunn?

 

Nunn doesn't have the power to stop Joppy, so it would be a close tactical fight. I think Nunn has the edge but it could easily go either way

 

LOL.

Nunn beats the shit outta Joppy and stops him in about 6.

 

how does nunn stop him in6? sounds like hyperbole.

 

Nunn iced Kalambay with one left hand, and stopped Roldan in 7.

Joppy was a bum.

 

but didn'

 

but didn't t joppy go 12 with hopkins? and it wasn't like hopkins couldn't find him.

 

Nunn had more power than Hopkins, and a lot more handspeed.

 

Other than Oscar, everyone has gone 12 with Hopkins over the last 9 or 10 years.

 

Nunn corpses him up

 

seriously... Hopkins hasn't been a positive fighter since about 2000 or so... Has been throwing 10 power shots per round for a decade

 

The Joppy fight was one fight though where Hopkins did a lot of damage. We all can remember Joppy's chipmunk face after that one. I don't know. Joppy wasn't very good. But he was pretty durable. I'm willing to concede that yeah, Nunn might have knocked him out if they'd fought. Joppy's defense always was shit. But I don't know if it's a foregone conclusion.

 

And the only reason Trinidad stopped him was cement hand wraps, right?

 

Joppy was shit and he survived against Hopkins because he wasn't trying to win... Even a guy without the best chin can go the full 12 when he's expecting to get hit and not trying... You get hurt a hell of a lot more readily when you actually try to engage and get caught with something

I'd rate Nunn, while not a big banger (the freak KO of Kalambay notwithstanding), a harder one-shot hitter than Hopkins

 

sounds right to me

 

as a matter of fact, yes. i believe firmly that tito's gloves were loaded in that fight. and while i don't believe it was the first time tito loaded his gloves, i think the joppy fight represents the pinnacle of trinidad's glove loading, probably because it was his first fight at 160. my guess is hopkins and his people knew right away after watching that fight that that trinidad had been loading his gloves. i think it was plainly obvious, especially in retrospect, after trinidad was caught doing it before the hopkins fight.

 

It wasn't because Joppy stood in front of Trinidad with his hands down and his chin out? Are you sure?

 

Yeah...the Kalambay fight was one of those flukey fights...a gifted and durable boxer gets blasted out by another good boxer who was a nothing special puncher. I wonder what the odds were on Nunn KO1??

 

Nunn is the most overrated fighter on this forum and the amount of excuses people make for him is obscene. However, Joppy was poo and Nunn would have whipped him.

MTF

 

pretty much

although I'd rank Mike McCallum (and I LOVED the guy) as the most overrated fighter on this forum, although Nunn is up there

 

100-1 wouldn't surprise me

 

stop being logical

 

Trinidad was a different fighter that night (against Joppy), with the knowledge that the devastation of his gloves would wear off somewhat as the fight went on and also that Joppy's chances of having a normal life would likely dissipate the longer the fight went (I'm willing to give Trinidad the benefit of the doubt that all he wanted to do was win the fight; he didn't want to maim Joppy).

 

You overrate Starling more than anybody overrates McCallum.

I think one time you said Starling and McCallum were on the same level, which is COMICAL.

McCallum was a different league completely from Starling.

 

Starling couldn't wash "The Body Snatcher"'s car!!

 

Starling was pretty good, yo.

 

McCallum was undisputedly world class and is an ATG. He gets a lot of love round these parts for sure, but damn he was good. Nunn is just another middleweight guy in an era of good middleweights who beat some past it welterweights and a guy who got whipped in a round by Nigel Benn and lost to Toney. His entire 'reputation' is built on a freak, once-in-a-lifetime first round win over a very good fighter.

MTF

 

Micheal Nunn definitely had amazing talent. He's the whole reason SRL moved back down in weight at the end of his career - something you rarely see fighters do, especially then.

But I agree that too many of his key wins were over smaller guys. And at light heavyweight Nunn was never really the same fighter. He always seemed lazy at 175, which I think showed his lack of dedication by that stage, but also his immense talent which allowed him to compete even with his lack of desire.

 

Nunn's best 3 performances came against Tate, Roldan, and Kalambay. In fact, he was the underdog going into the Tate fight. His performance against Tate was as awesome a virtuoso performance as you'll see.

Tate IMO was a more skilled version of Jermain Taylor. Nunn took him apart like he was a total bum, and Tate was never really the same again.

 

I was just referring to the Curry and Starling wins. But I guess those weren't his best.