UFC 156--- Aldo vs Edgar February 2, 2013

UFC must be pretty pissed. A copule big fights got ruined. Rashad was gonna fight Anderson at 185 and obviously Overeem was lined up for Cain.

 

I'm guessing it will be Glover in late May.

 

Glover looked pretty good in the first but then it turned into a sloppy brawl. I think Glover's chin and stand up equals sleepy time for Rashad.

 

And what was the excuse for Brock in the Carwin fight ??? Overeem is stronger than Lesnar so he can't manhandle him, and if he can barely withstand what Carwin dish for 1 round he ain't lasting one round standing with Overeem, diverticulus or not.

As for BigFoot laying the blueprint for beating Overeem, that is nonsense. It's been more than 10 years that the blueprint is in plain sight. Everyone knows that Overeem has a shaky chin and questionnable stamina, he shown it numerous time in MMA and K-1 fights. Sure some of them were due to him draining himself doing the cut for lhw, but then, how could you explain the Kharitonov rematch or the Hari one. The problem is that it's not so easy exploiting those weakness, a guy like Nelson would be so outgunned he'd have no chance of doing it.

I don't get how so many people are shocked or act as if Overeem was exposed. He wasn't. We already knew his weakness and his limitation for a long time

 

I really don't see this whole "best striker in mma" deal. I mean Werdum out striked him on their feet and big foot KO'ed him on the feet. Overeem couldn't come close to do what little Cormier easily did with one punch and that guy is a wrestler first and everything else second.

 

Called the Overeem fight. Nothing has changed, he's the same guy that got KTFO at LHW. He gets tagged good once and the bitch comes out. Overeem is a bully, if he can't bully you he folds like a cheap lawn chair. I knew all Bigfoot had to do was survive the first couple rounds.

As for the Edgar fight, there was no robbery. It was close, but Aldo did all the damage in the fight. Frankie needs to learn to stop trying to point fight his way to victory and actually try to do some damage. He's not going to win these close fights if he never does any damage.

 

I will tell you right now if Roy Nelson ever fights Overeem, I will not think twice about picking Roy.

 

Edgar won the fight. He won the last 3 rounds. Rounds 3-5 he outworked Aldo, outstruck him, and took him down. People see a bloody nose and a red face and think that means Edgar lost. Watch the fight again. Score the rounds. Edgar won.

He deserves better.

TFK

 

I watched the fight, stop listening to Joe Rogan.

 

Please, Overeem was exposed because guys like you (It's Overeem's time) had him running through guys like Cain and JDS. And the truth, which was clearly exposed by Bigfoot, is that Overeem is simply an average or slightly below average HW.

And it's tough for that blueprint to be used when Overeem has hidden in Japan fighting the James Thompsons of the world. It's not hard to understand. He is now in the big leagues. There are no more walkovers like Fujita or Goodridge. Every fight is against a Top 20 fighter and Overeem just isn't good enough to win almost any of those fights.

I am far from a Roy Nelson fan but he walks through this bum. It's simple. Keep your guard up, clinch a little bit, and then destroy juice boy when he can't lift his arms.

It's Overeem Time!!!!

 

Overeem is the most overrated fighter in the history of the sport.

 

What does Joe Rogan have to do with anything?

TFK

 

i dont think overeem sucks. he clearly won the first two rounds. credit silva for coming out guns blazing in the third and getting the job done.

i thought overeem was a bit reluctant to trade in the first place. he was trying to load up, but without taking risks to close the gap. that's why he clinched rather than throwing kicks or standing toe-to-toe. he was probably gassed after the second round and silva took full advantage.

 

He screams like a little school girl every time Edgar lands anything.

This is not a fight that can be called a robbery though, it was close.

 

It was close, but Edgar won the last 3 rounds. I have yet to see a compelling argument to dispute that.

But 2 judges having it 39-36? That's inexcusable.

TFK

 

The only round Edgar won clearly was the 4th. Aldo won the first two clearly. Edgar left the 3rd and 5th rounds to the judges. He needs to learn how to finish a fight. Especially that 5th round. He had to know it was close or he was behind. He should have left it all in the octagon right there. Quit fighting the safe fight, Frankie, it does you no service. Go Mortal Kombat and FINISH HIM!!!! :kidcool:

 

Edgar won the last 3 rounds. They were close, closer than the 1st two, but they were won by Edgar.

And not everybody is a finisher. GSP never finishes anyone. The last time Benson Henderson finished someone was 8 fights ago. Domenick Cruz has one win by stoppage in the past 5 years. Why is Edgar punished for not finishing fights? Why didn't Aldo finish Edgar in the first 2 rounds when he had a chance?

The bottom line is, in rounds 3 through 5, Edgar outworked Aldo. He outstruck him. He took him down. He set the pace of the fight. He may not have won those rounds as dominantly as Aldo won the first two, but he won those rounds. This isn't Pride where the fight is judged as a whole, it is judged round by round. And Edgar won 3 of those rounds.

TFK

 

GSP is a horrible comparison. He dominates guys to the point where there is zero doubt. Edgar does not. It's as simple as that. I thought Aldo won the first 3 and there can be a case for the 5th as well.

 

I disagree but it depends on what striking you put more weight on. Frankie landed more shots to the body and legs in rounds 3 and 5, but Aldo landed more shots to the head by almost double. I must admit, I think scoring a "leg jab" is the most worthless thing in mma. So I'm gonna put more weight on jab that lands on your chin. But we can argue about stats all day long, simple truth is, neither were dominant. So both left the round to the judges interpretation. No way was this a robbery.

http://blog.fightmetric.com/2013/02/aldo-vs-edgar-official-ufc-statistics.html

 

I'm gonna try and re-watch the fight again tonight and see if I view it any differently. But from what I saw, Edgar won the last 3 rounds. They were close, but not close enough to give any of them to Aldo.

TFK

 

By the way, if you listened to Joe Rogan you would think that Jose Aldo actually knocked Edgar's leg off of his body with a kick. Rogan almost erupted into orgasm when Aldo landed a leg kick.

And the truth is that the few kicks that Aldo did throw had no effect on Frankie's movement. In fact Edgar was moving more effectively at the end of the fight.

I know what Aldo's done with leg kicks in the past but Rogan and his butt-buddy Goldberg should actually commentate on what is happening and not what they expect to happen.

Anyone else notice that Rogan thinks fighters are hurt or stunned or staggered far more frequently than they really are? Rogan said Bigfoot was hurt badly twice. I've watched the fight like a dozen times now and still don't see Silva ever even slightly hurt.

Just a rant. Thanks for listening.

 

Well all 3 kicks he did throw knocked Edgar down. They may not have had a lasting effect but it sure looked painful.

 

Yeah, I saw Edgar fall once. Not sure about 3 times. You need to stop listening to Joe Rogan.


Ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

 

Rogan is a Frankie nuthugger you son of a bitch!

 

Aldo did the more obvious damage in the fight, and won the first 2 more emphatically than any Edgar round, so it kind of seemed like he should be the winner, but I think the fight could have gone either way.

Frankie won rounds 4 and 5, and arguably the 3rd too. They were all close, which is possibly what sways your mind to thinking Aldo is the rightful victor.

Edgar sure is an unlucky fucker. He's an elite fighter, but has lost 3 fights in a row, all fights he could have got the decision for. The judges obviously don't go for his meat and potatoes style, that just kind of consistently racks up points over the distance.

 

Mirko Cro Cop on Aleister Overeem.....

"I wasn't surprised by Silva's victory at all and I had believed he would win. I don't want to come off as a smart-ass or say I knew it all along, so I'll explain why I'd believed so. First, Silva is a big tough guy with a huge heart who had demolished Fedor and he needs no better reference than that, and Alistair hugely underestimated him and belittled him with his arrogant statements, so this mobilized Silva in the best possible way. Second, Silva is a natural heavyweight, and Alistair - for the first time since way back in 2007, when he began to gain huge weight - fought without the drugs he had used constantly for years, including testosterone and all the other shit that goes with it.



Watching the weigh-in, I saw that his muscles mass was nowhere near his usual, he had the weight, but he wasn't nearly as carved out and defined, since he couldn't take anything because he was watched by the Athletic Commission. This also reflects on the psyche of a man who's been using stuff to increase his strength, endurance, pain tolerance and aggressiveness for years, and now there was none of that. Alistair is an excellent fighter, but he still owes that excellence to something that's dirty and unpermitted, and, in the end, very dangerous to health.



I don't think he was concerned by that, he wanted success at any cost. And the third thing is, Alistair had behaved so arrogantly that someone needed to put him back in his place. His belittling of Silva was repulsive, saying that after beating up Silva he'd go for the belt, and at the weigh-in and entering the arena he acted like he invented the fighting sport, and he's been behaving with so much arrogance lately that I'm glad Silva put him back in his place and taught him a lesson! Congratulations Silva, from the heart!"



TFK

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