IF Floyd Beats Canelo 12-0 and Drops Him and Cuts Him........

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  1. Irish

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    .........Will Canelo be a bum like Jeff Lacy or will his stock soar along with Floyds? :dunno:

    ...........Will Floyds stock soar even more and will Canelo be regarded as a Bum

    .............Will they both, amazingly, be regarded as bums???
     
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    alvarez never had fights fall out because he took his shirt off at the weighin
     
  3. Irish

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    So.....bum or no bum when Floyd beats him?
     
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    LOL...you're on a roll today.
     
  5. Irish

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    We just need to know in advance, for our systems, if Canelo will drop in status if Floyd beats him.

    If Floyd beats him, is Floyd going up in status? How can he go up in Canelo is, ex post facto, declared Bummish?
     
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    alvarez will be 3 divisions larger than mayweather jr in the ring, that is the key difference in your comparison. otherwise he may turn out to be lacy-esque.
     
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    I am glad you said that.

    So if Canelo is 3 divisions bigger and still loses, he must become a bummish sort and ergo, Floyds win is actually worth less as he lost to a guy who was so bad that a 3 division weight advantage was no use to him?? Or, is it a case of Potuit, decuit, ergo fecit for Flid???
     
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    jr middle weight vs light heavyweight, you simpleton
     
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    Alvarez' already proved himself better than Lacy by beating Trout - 'legacy wise' the rest will depend on what Alvarez does after Floyd fights him. Lacy post Calzaghe shows the win for what it was - a win over a total hype job.
     
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    Right.
     
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    Right, so if Canelo cannot beat a guy despite having a 3 division weight advantage, does he get the Lacy-Vatali treatment.

    Oh and who did Trout beat? A former 140lbr..........154------140.......sounds a lot like three weight divisions from here.

    Anyways I digress. THIS IS CLEARLY A GREAT FIGHT!!! :bears:

    Trout...Vanderpol....I can dig it.
     
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    To answer the thread title, Floyd would win on points. (Sorry Capt. Obvious)
     
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    mcBigot is digressing and going down in flames as usual. give him enough rope...
     
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    If Canelo struggles with Floyd, and loses, with this three weight division advantage, would it be worse than when Vatali had a three weight division advantage and quit versus the artist formerly known as 160lb Chris Burd?

    I am just seeing where Canelo stands {or slumps} when this is all over........can this three-division-weight-advantage-having-victor-of-Trout still have a career after Floyd owns him??


    I reckon nobody here says fuck all of any prescience prior to the fight, then finds good things to say about both men after it.
     
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    Floyd should win. He's got prior at 15Xlbs [in fact all Mayweathers by birth have priors} and has it against better fighters than Canelo, who, amazingly, no matter how badly he does, even with a 3 Division Weight Advantage, will come out of this fight with immense credit, and his reputation enhanced, even more enhanced than it currently is {He's at DefCon Trout, right now}
     
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    What previous Mayweather opponents were talked up after the fact? :dunno:
     
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    Castillo.... Oscar....{as in people thought they won the fights} Corley got great credit and press for his effort.

    Most importantly...what Floyd opponents were ever denigrated to all hell by simple dint of the fact that they lost to him???
     
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    What opponents turned out to be useless hype jobs like Lacy?
     
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    Ortiz.
     
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    Floyd's win over Corrales has been appropriately reevaluated over the years. Ditto Gatti. Corrales and Gatti of course both being much more accomplished fighters than Lacy.
     
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    And around we go..............Lacy was a hype job why? Because he lost to Joe....and didn't do anything afterwards........but he didn't do anything afterwards because <strike>Joe damaged him</strike> he was a hype job and he lost in the first place because <strike>Joe was really just a talented dude who turned in an ATG performance</strike> Lacy was a hype job. Ah, to separate the dancer from the dance.

    Christ, its like some redacted CIA bullshit......."Agent _________ then picked a steel bar and proceeded to __________ the ________ about the _________ until__________ confessed_________"
     
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    You think the Gatti win has been reevaluated over the years? We knew he had no chance and it was an easy win, and still do :lol:
     
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    Anyways...Canelo, please.
     
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    Sure, but only in the way any sacrificial lamb in a PPv show gets hyped up. Calzaghe-Lacy was hyped up as a big deal between two champs and so Joe's performance got hyped up in proportion. And has been appropriately reassesed since.

    And for the record Ortiz is probably still better and more accomplished than Lacy.
     
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    Reed had something to say about it, how Floyd needed it for HBO or something. Not a re-evaluation, but a justification of sorts. I think everyone knew it was BS.

    Ironically, Gatti probably had three weight divisions on Floyd by the first bell :shit: same as he did everyone he ever fought.
     
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    True true.

    Lacy did fucking suck, surely you know this Irish? Kessler and Hopkins were much, much better wins. Lacy was an absolute hype job, how can there be any argument he wasn't?
     
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    Ortiz never took a 12 round beating where he lost every round and some of them 10-8 and then got his shoulder bust soon after.

    Considering that Joe went on to never lose a fight, beating Kessler and Hopkins, and Kessler and Hopkins went on to beat Froch and Pavlik respectively.....well...how you find room to reassess Joe's win over Lacy is quite beyond me.

    Reasess him in light of wins over Kess/Hop and their wins over Froch and Kessler if you must.
     
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    My opinion on Canelo going in? I think he's a good fighter, have all along. I think he'll be too slow for Floyd but I'll be proper surprised if Floyd 'Lacy's' him.
     
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    Anyways.......Canelo...how well does he have to do with the three weight divisions of extra firepower ....to avoid the Lacy Rep?
     
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    I did not ask for a predo :lol:
     

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