Mayweather Maidana II

This is the prevailing theory where exactly?

 

I don't think he let it be close at all, I just think Maidana's ferocity and wild, unpredictable style surprised him. He probably expected a relatively easy potshotting day in the office.

 

Uh, it's one you yourself have tried to advance (all he needed to do was be more aggressive according to your take). That and of course it had been his father in the corner and not Roger (as if that counts for anything at this stage). You go cdogg. Your take on the first fight is unassailable. ::

 

"the prevailing theory is PBF let it be close"

How is this in any way the same as saying he made a poor tactical decision or two and would have been better served in going on the offensive more often (as he would no doubt be more apt to do with Roger in charge, as history proves) ?

Your statement appears to be saying "Everyone thinks PBF purposely let Maidana be more competitive for xyz reasons" ... I haven't seen anyone advance such a preposterous theory other than you (in reactionary fashion, of course)

 

Admit it or not, your position is that Mayweather would've had no trouble at all with Madaina if he'd only gone on the offense. Never mind that hitting your opponent is the primary goal of all fighters. And yet, you want us to believe PBF made the conscious decision to hold off offensively? That this occurred to him as his best bet and that the primary reason for this is that he had his father in his corner? ::

 

It could be mayweather jr realized he had no money fights on the horizon so he knew he had to move less to make a rematch viable. And in September he won't allow maidana to rough him up when he stands his ground. Hence why he preferred the non puncher gloves. And even paid 1.5 mill allegedly.
Or it could be he's old and doesn't have the legs to move against a puncher who puts pressure on.

He moved well against alvarez. But alvarez picks his shots and doesn't impose his size advantage.

It also could be mayweather jr figured he could hurt maidanas wild ass more than he did, which was what I incorrectly anticipated.

I disagree with clogg that mayweather jr just needs to be more offensive and back up maidana more often. He could do that a bit more but I don't think he is able to maintain that type of fight for even 2 of 3 minutes all 12 rounds at this point in his life/career

 

To quote CDogg's favorite band:

"Wake me up when September ends."

Zzzzzzzzzz

 

Lol at this thread's tags. ::

 

My theory is there's a lot of pressure on pbf to make his fights more exciting. The Guerrero fight and the Alvarez fights were boring as hell.

So PBF's glove request could've been for insurance he could trade with Madaina thereby making the fight exciting with less chance of getting hurt.

I think his opponent, not his trainer dictates his approach. He'll point to his dad or uncle as the reason he fought this way or that way, but we all know that's bullshit.

 

The guy is old and been in the game forever. His dad was brought in to lengthen his last few fights since he'll promote a more defensive mind set and mayweather jr is already guaranteed 30+ each fight no matter how boring

 

This is demonstrably untrue

 

1) This has never been my position at all. Ever. My position is that it would have behooved him to be more aggressive than he was. He would have been more successful had he been more aggressive.

2) uh, what?

3) Where did I say that? Read my words carefully and tell me where I said anything like that. He made a conscious decision to try and fight off the backfoot, believing it to be the best strategy against Maidana. I disagree that it was the best strategy.

4) Trainers impact the strategy. Floyd Sr. always encourages a more defensive minded approach. Roger recommends more offensive risk-taking. If you don't see the difference, you haven't been following the guy's career very closely. As I stated from the beginning, Roger's approach would have been more useful at times in the match. How this gets turned into the conspiracy pablum you're spouting here is anyone's guess

 

Yeah, I'm not suggesting he just stand and trade the whole time or go balls to the wall for 2 minutes a frame, but he was able to back Maidana up real well when he took the initiative. He didn't do it anywhere near as much as I believe he could have in the match. My whole take before Trouble Mel started putting words in my mouth was that Mayweather should have done more of that in the first fight and it would have been more decisive.

 

Madaina ' s camp denies he was paid not to use his gloves.

 

Very little would be my guess

 

T.I.?

 

Chavez took stay busy fights when he was on top to sharpen his game

 

Showtime should not let it happen as a PPV. Should just show it as a regular fight on tv. Sure it was kind of exciting, but I didn't buy the first won't buy the next and expect the same result. Unless his big surprise is Manny in May. Cotto would have been a much better choice for Sept.

 

Despite the Goings On w/Haymon, Schaefer, G & Leonard Ellerbee's Assertion Floyd was ENDING the Working Relationship, Looks like G will 1nce Again PROMOTE Floyd's Next Bout, As Has Been the Case Since Floyd-DeLa...

It's Actually SAD Floyd Insists in Putting Up the "Mayweather Promotions", "I'm my OWN Boss" CHARADE..."Mayweather Promotions" IS NOT Licensed to Put On Fights in Las Vegas OR Anywhere Else for that Matter...Nonetheless, the PERCEPTION is All Floyd is Concerned w/...

Floyd Mayweather is a Golden Boy Promotions Fighter, PERIOD...




REED:mj:

 

It shows just how insecure Floyd is at this point in his career and life.

With him everything is about IMAGE and PERCEPTION. This weird need to be perceived as this great guy who does so much for boxing. This weird need to try to stand out from everyone.

Its the very reason I never buy into the whole charade he puts on during the whole pre fight hype, 24/7, All Access, etc.

Floyd just comes off so FAKE to me. Guys like Ali and Prince Naseem were at least WITTY and felt authentic when they said whatever they said, or did whatever they chose to do. Floyd's like that spoiled child in the family who wants to be like his big brothers but doesn't get the love because he tries too hard.

 

Floyd wins 9-10 rounds...easy...

 

Floyd by decision, this time by a wider margin. Of course I don't buy into Floyd's "I fought like that for the fans" (just like the Cotto fight), a younger Floyd of 2006-2007 would win by a larger margin but adding more movement and stink tactics. Well he did he use stink tactics last time with his clinching, but also stood at range for the most part. Although he's generally always been an "in-the-pocket" fighter, he could also use a lot more movement when he had the legs. Now he doesn't, which makes fights more interesting.

Although my head says Floyd, I do have that slight gut feeling that this is another Jones-Tarver. Although I'd like to see Maidana upset Mayweather, I also want to see Floyd absolutely pick apart Khan. As Cdogg said earlier, Floyd represents old-school skills, actual "know-how" abilities in the ring, while Khan does his jittery, spazz-out boxing style. I don't like it when speed gets overrated and mistaken for skills.

 

mayweather rejected winner takes all bet from maidana!! what a pussy!!! why isnt he willing to risk his 32 million against maidanas 5 million???

 

Floyd SHOULD have Countered w/5 for 5, Though REED Doubts the Commission Would've Allowed it to Happen, Ultimately...





REED:mj:

 

Pbf knows he can't win.

 

There's Definitely a SCENT of that in the Air...

Roy ONLY Rematched Tarver Because the 1st Bout was CLOSER than Expected, for a Roy Jones Fight...Same Here...Roy was Regarded as THE Best Fighter in the World, as Floyd is Now & THOROUGHLY Enjoyed the Prestige that Came w/that "Title"...

As Was the Case for Roy, This RE is All about EGO for Floyd...Moreso than Perhaps ANY Other Fight of his Career...The Lil' Wayne's and Beiber's of the World Know NATHAN about the 1st Castillo Bout, So Maidana I was THE 1st Time Floyd has Looked MORTAL To Them & Other MAINSTREAM Fans...

Undoubtedly, Floyd is BOTHERED by that Blemish, However Slight & Wants to RECTIFY It...Rest Assured, Floyd Will Be AMPED & MOTIVATED to Remind his Followers of How GOOD He Is...Just as Roy was in Tarver II...Floyd'll Be MORE Offensive Minded & Will Take MORE Chances than Normal...

Maidana's WILD Enough to Land Some Shit Floyd May Not See Coming, & Hits HARD Enough to END the Fight w/1-2 More Well Placed Shots, If/When he Does...




REED:mj:

 

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Well if Maidana had his illegal gloves, of course Floyd wouldn't win

 

Pbf is afraid maidana will do to him what he did to Broner if he's allowed to wear the gloves of choice. Watched Madaina/Broner again the other night. It was hilarious as hell to see Broner not just over - powered but utterly befuddled by Madaina. Broner ' s wannabe PBF act just wouldn't fly.

 

I like Mayweather in this one...Ronda Rousey?.....a bullshitter....but it came out believable.
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