Roy Jones Jr. vs Kovalev

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Haymaker, Nov 9, 2014.

  1. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    12,166
    Likes Received:
    1
    Roy would make Kovalev look silly. He was simply too fast and confident at 175 lbs.
     
  2. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2002
    Messages:
    17,162
    Likes Received:
    1,714
    Home Page:
    Barring a one-punch KO yes, Jones and big, possibly by stoppage. Kovalev's chance of winning would be about 10%, which is more than most lt heavy champions in the history.

    Kovalew vs Qawi, Kovalev vs Dariusz or even Kovalev vs Moore, now those would be legit fights
     
  3. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    15,222
    Likes Received:
    1,365
    I expected X to make this thread
     
  4. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,689
    Likes Received:
    5,362
    That one would especially interesting.
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Qawi would have beaten the living shit outta Kovalev, that's no interesting matchup.

    I agree, Kov vs DM is an interesting fight.
     
  6. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2002
    Messages:
    17,162
    Likes Received:
    1,714
    Home Page:
    I don't think there is enough proof to be sure of that. Even though Kovalev isn't the biggest puncher ever, I think it is safe to say that nobody would just shrug his punches off and Qawi would get hit. Also, even though we don't know enough about Kovalev's chin, it is petty safe to say it is not glass.

    Qawi starts as a favorite since he is much more proven and he had perhaps qualities that enabled him to beat fighters whom Kovalev might not have (he closed the distance exceptionally well and did damage inside) but head-to-head, it is NOT a lock, simply because we don't know enough about Kovalev
     
  7. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    Kovalev would slap Mikkelboofski around like a red headed Polish stepchild.
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Simply based on styles, Kov is made to order for Qawi.

    Kov's only edge on Qawi is that he's heavier handed. He has no other advantage. It wouldn't be enough to negate Qawi having a better chin, a better defense, and being too quick and dynamic on the inside.

    Kov would get chewed up Qawi.

    I could see Kov vs Saad being a more interesting fight, because Saad was a much easier target to find than Qawi.

    I like the idea of Kov vs DM more though. Kov never faced a fighter as strong, and as potent offensively as DM, and DM never faced a fighter as powerful and offensively potent as Kovalev.
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    And to answer the thread's question, the circa 94-00 Jones lights Kov up.

    Around 02-03, Roy's reflexes and feet started declining, so Kov has an outside shot against that Jones.
     
  10. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2002
    Messages:
    17,162
    Likes Received:
    1,714
    Home Page:
    I don't think Kovalev is stylistically tailor made for anyone whose game is based on aggression, and that's my only point here. Kovalev would be much easier task for Spinks than Qawi was (and even that wasn't close), but head to head this is interesting.

    It could turn out that Kovalev isn't good enough to beat Dariusz either, so far he is pure question mark
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    If forced to choose at this pont, I'd pick Kov over DM. I think Dariuz ate too many shots coming in for me to pick him. Not saying DM was a punching bag like Rios, he was a quality fighter, but he was no defensive wiz.
     
  12. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2002
    Messages:
    17,162
    Likes Received:
    1,714
    Home Page:
    Agreed on that
     
  13. SilentNight

    SilentNight Undisputed Champion

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2013
    Messages:
    2,516
    Likes Received:
    2
    Kovalev doesn't get past the 7th round
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Depends on how Kov handles Roy's power.

    As highly as I think of Roy, not even I think Roy would simply destroy him.

    Kov is too dangerous a puncher for Roy to go all out on him. Most likely scenario is Roy uses his speed, and cruises to a wide UD. If he gets a stoppage, it'd probably be late.
     
  15. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2003
    Messages:
    28,647
    Likes Received:
    283
    Do you think David Telesco is better than Kovalev?
     
  16. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Roy by very wiiiide decision... much too fast and Kovalev doesn't have the right style and attributes to bridge the gap in quickness... He's forced to be too defensive out of respect for Jones' fast, hard shots
     
  17. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Exactly. And as yall all know, I'm a Jones groupie.

    But the most likely scenario here is Roy by wide UD.
     
  18. Muzse

    Muzse "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2003
    Messages:
    5,695
    Likes Received:
    166
    Location:
    Muzseland
    Home Page:
    Depends on if Roy has a broken bone in his hand against Kovalev like he did against Telesco.
     
  19. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    Telesco was basura
     
  20. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    Like I said, I don't think Roy would bother trying to finish Kov off, even if he hurt him. And Jones WOULD most likely hurt him at some point. But knowing the power Kov has, I think Roy would respect him enough to settle for a decision.
     
  21. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2006
    Messages:
    13,353
    Likes Received:
    2,241
    Kovalev would have a better shot at beating Jones than qawi imo.

    I dont think that Jones ko Kovalev, as he would be very cautious of Kovalev power. Most likely scenario is Jones UD in a tepid fight.
     
  22. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    Messages:
    56,687
    Likes Received:
    13,754
    Location:
    Your girl's crib
    I think he'd have virtually no chance of beating either one to be honest, but Qawi would beat him up worse.

    But make no mistake, Kov has virtually zero chance of beating the 94-00 Jones.
     
  23. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2003
    Messages:
    28,868
    Likes Received:
    1,877
    Let's see kov against someone who goes after him. That'd be interesting.
     
  24. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    12,166
    Likes Received:
    1
    We could wait long years to see that. Unless he moves up, I don't see anyone brave or stupid enough to go after him.
     
  25. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2003
    Messages:
    7,788
    Likes Received:
    0
    Home Page:
    might have looked like roy vs gonzalez except kovalev is way better.
     
  26. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Joined:
    May 17, 2005
    Messages:
    72,271
    Likes Received:
    6,189
    Occupation:
    Involved in hyperbole
    Location:
    Interzone
    I still think this sort of style is the perfect one to beat RJJ. Aggressive counter puncher if you like, press the distance, feint allot, force Roy to lead and punch during the exchanges. So yeah id give Kov a pretty good chance - if the odds were long enough id give it a punt
     
  27. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2002
    Messages:
    47,689
    Likes Received:
    5,362
    I think there is truth to this but we've yet to see Kovalev eat a lot of punches and how he reacts. I'm not talking about only his chin, but what he does when he gets cracked and the opponent isn't in range to hit back. Roy was in with a lot of fighters with good beards but once they started taking blows they couldn't see coming (and with speed they've never encountered) almost all of them became gun shy. Kov was able to be patient with Hopkins, but he was also winning every round of the fight and taking little to no punishment of his own.
     
  28. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    90,394
    Likes Received:
    4,377
    Occupation:
    SUCK MY BALLS!!
    Location:
    Beyond The Pale
    agWHISKEYd
     
  29. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2002
    Messages:
    18,061
    Likes Received:
    388
    Occupation:
    Player
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    RJJ TKO5
     
  30. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2003
    Messages:
    28,868
    Likes Received:
    1,877
    But Qawi would have?
     

Share This Page