Fights AS Big or BIGGER than FLOYD -PAC...

No, Floyd ISN'T "Scared" in the Boogie Man Sense...He's Not Going to Run the Other Direction @ the Sight of Pac...But Floyd is UNNERVED by Manny, Clearly...UNEASY, when it Comes to Him...

Whatever You Want to Call It...


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well if he views it as the biggest fight of his career, and pacquiao as a threat then he will prepare accordingly and attempt to gain every advantage. most seem to view pacquiao as the biggest threat to beat him. if the guys he paid off were really ideal then pacquiao couldve just upped the price and still worked with them. im trying to figure who these guys would be? no one really comes to mind stylistically.

if you think he's spooked and it translating to him losing then go ahead and throw some money on pacquiao now. his odds are dropping

there is no telling if mayweather jr is behind it or not. haymon just did some very underhanded shit as far as the matthysse provodnikov fight so i wouldnt put it past him to have done this on his own. it benefits him if mayweather jr wins

 

There's NO OTHER Reason for Haymon To Do this, EXCEPT for @ Floyd's Request...

May 2nd will Be THE Biggest Payday of Floyd's Career, Even if a RE or 3rd Fight w/Pac Materializes...& Haymon will Get a Cut of That Career High Purse, so there's Really NO Benefit in him Doing This...It's @ Floyd's Request, Clearly...




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well we dont know what business ventures haymon has with mayweather jr aside from boxing. it certainly is in his best interest for mayweather jr to win and maintain his celebrity status for posterity. its debatable what a loss will do to his status where as a dominant victory over pacquiao followed by retiring undefeated will cement his status as far as fame and adulation/hate from the public are concerned.

its speculation whether mayweather jr demanded this or haymon did it on his own. personally Ive never heard of this type of tactic happening. you think mayweather jr was smart enough to think of it?

its amusing that people are still claiming the guy is scared when the fight is happening.

 

Far too early to say this. Thanks to his amazing talent and careful matchmaking, we never had to see Floyd digs really deep in a fight. Sure, Mosley and Corley both rocked him but name me a fighter this side of Thor Hammer who would have quit. Even Victor Ortiz, who basically everyone here calls a bitch, fought through worse adversity vs Maidan before quitting. Plus, he wasn'T exactly willing to let it all out in extremely close fights like JLC I or Maidana I, instead choosing to put his fate in the hands of the judges.

And deny it how much you want, Pac definitively had, at the very least, Floyd extremely worried, if not downright scarred. Floyd ''crusade'' for random drug testing started as soon as talk of them fighting did.

 

Floyd is concern about who Pacquiao's sparring partner??

 

Another reason why this fight sucks ass, and why the modern era sucks ass.

Floyd interfering with Pacs sparring.

 

Do we have evidence this happened other than Roach?

 

One thing we know, Floyd has a great chin. He holds, recovers extremely well, and comes back fighting even when he is hurt. He came forward after Mosley landed that right hand bomb, his legs clearly spaghetti at that point. He then proceeded to win the very next round.

Pacquaio is the same way and has been in with better opposition. Morales, Barrera, Marquez. Bradley is much better than Guerrero, Ortiz. He likes firefights. Floyd likes the easiest route to victories, will stink the joint if it means he is safe and his 0 is intact, a la Castillo, Maidana rematches.

Floyd always prepares 110%, no surprises, regardless of opponents. You could say Pacquaio had to get up for Bradley, Marquez, Clottley while waiting on Floyd with his demands, his retirements. Now you have a fully motivated Manny for the crown of a lifetime. Floyd thinks it's too late. May 2nd the world will find out...

 

Floyd was Haymon's Way IN, to the Sport of Boxing...On THIS Level, Anyways...Because 1nce Haymon Had Floyd, EVERYBODY Else Lined Up to Sign w/Him...


For All this Talk of Being his "Own Boss", Floyd Relies HEAVILY on Haymon to Orchestrate his Moves...More Importantly, Haymon's SMART Enough to Allow Floyd the Public PERCEPTION of Being his Own Boss, w/Out Actually BEING It...

But Don't Think for a Second Haymon LIKES how Floyd Carries Himself...Haymon's a HARVARD EDUCATED Brother Who Already HAD Money Prior to Venturing Into Boxing...Floyd's the Antithesis of Who Haymon Is...Floyd, ie., "Money May" is a Caricature, a Fucking Buffoon, in an Era where Business Minded Brother's are DISTANCING Themselves from that Behavior...& Haymon Has Younger Guys in his Stable, who Will Project a More POSITIVE Image, that Can Also FIGHT like Hell....

Floyd's @ the TAIL END of his Career...Who Knows if he'll Even Still Be Fighting this Time in 2016???...@ the Same Time, Haymon's ALREADY Laid the Foundation for HIS Future...Aside from Floyd, Haymon's Got No Fewer than 130 Additional Fighters in his Stable & just Signed Network Deals w/Several Entities...

Bottom Line, Haymon DOESN'T Need Floyd Anymore...Haymon's Plans WON'T Be Compromised by Floyd LOSING to Pac or Anybody Else, @ this Point...Which is why it's CLEAR Floyd is the 1 who ASKED Haymon to Step Up & BLOCK Pac's Attempts & Getting Certain Sparring Partners...What EXACTLY Would Haymon GAIN from it???...

Floyd's "Smart" Enough to Know Which Guys Bear a Resemblance to Him, Stylistically, & Being Floyd Mayweather, it'd Be VERY Easy to Get In Contact w/those Fighters...Hell, Floyd May have Paid these Sparring Partners to NOT Go, but is Using Haymon as the Fall Guy...

Floyd's Definitely UNNERVED by Pac, Neil...It's TRANSPARENT...Doesn't Mean Floyd Can't or Won't BEAT Pac on May 2nd, but it's There...




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http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-say...medium=twitter

 

i just doubt its some shit mayweather jr would think to do. its too clever. Im sure he was cool with it and/or put up the money, which probably doesnt amount to more than 50k.

the thing is, haymon JUST DID some similar shit to this when he blocked the matthysse provodnikov fight from occurring march 28 on the same date as his shitty jhonny gonzalez vs gary russell Jr card. he had no intention of putting that fight in carson, much like mayweather jr has no intention of using the right handed clones of himself in his camp. haymon just booked the venue as leverage and then the fights end up at the palms. eerily similar shenanigans.

i strongly disagree that haymon has no stake in a mayweather jr victory. he's getting paid millions of dollars each time the guy fights, if not tens of millions. the longer he keeps winning and keeps fighting the better for haymon.

 

A lot of assumptions in this post, my man.

 

When he had close fights he won, he immediately rematched the opponent in question (Castillo, Maidana). It wasn't just that Floyd didn't quit against those guys, it was that he came back MORE aggressively, to punish the opponent for having hurt him.. that says a lot about mindset, imo. As for the random drug test shit, everyone believed Pac was juicing after the 2nd Morales fight, why would he take a fight on uneven terms? Remember this is a guy who himself looks for every possible advantage in fight - he's not going to put himself at disadvantage, especially when it's against the rules.

My thoughts exactly. Roach could easily be full of shit.

...

also, let's be real, any version of Floyd would've beaten any version of either Morales and Barrera like rented donkeys

 

Looking forward to Floyd retiring

 

And the irony here is Floyd's had guys test positive for PED's in his camp/gym in the past few years (J'Leon Love and Mickey Bey...couple other guys tested positive for weed)...can't immediately think of anyone testing positive in Roach's camp. Unless you want to add in JCC Jr (weed) since Roach worked with him.

Secondly, there was talk of Floyd testing positive then having the results covered up. Can't think of a time I'd heard that about Manny.


2012 Maxboxing article by Thomas Hauser

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one

On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).

In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.

The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2[SUP]nd[/SUP], settlement talks heated up.

On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.

 

Good find Musze :bears:

That's what I've been saying for a couple of years, people banging on about Pacquiao and PEDs, at this point there is more evidence pointing towards Floyd using PEDs than Pacquiao.

 

One more thing...

Before Floyd fought Maidana he started working part-time with Alex Ariza...Pacquiao's former strength and conditioning coach. Ariza is on the payroll full-time for this fight.

To Neil's point, there's nothing wrong with getting the best possible preparation, "HOWEVER" considering Floyd's never worked with a strength and conditioning coach in any of his prior fights...certainly means he's taking the fight far more seriously than any other as well as there's a level of trepidation on Floyd's part.

 

Funny how a settlement was reached after Pac's lawyers requested results from the tests. Floyd paid Manny and the results never saw the light of day.

 

Floyd is the perfect posterboy for this era of monetization and cheating.

 

how bout James toney?

 

Would you say that to his face

 

It's the truth. Just like when wald pussy's big bro admitted he's been on gear

 

Would you say it to James Toneys face that, he, Toney, had been on gear, and was a cheat???

 

Toney and roach admitted he took steroids coming off an injury, same as your guy Dr gearfist

justin fortune is another roach guy who was caught

 

No, he said the drugs were being taken to correct a pituitary injury.

Oh what a tangled web we weave.............

 

Roach Says He Knows Two of His Fighters Who Tested Positive for PEDS



http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/...-of-his-fighters-who-tested-positive-for-peds

 

Virgil hill was pretty obviously juiced when be came back after jones jr wasted him to win a cruiser title by ko

 

best part of rewatching the corley fight is hearing merchant throughout the fight and even in the interview being condescending toward mayweather jr. talking about how he wants to be a a ppv attraction but is skeptical it will happen. how he'll never get to the level of delahoya as a draw. etc

 

Merchant, like most Americans, was not foreseeing of the economic and social disaster that was soon to befall the United States.

Money Money Yo Yo Money.