Khan vs Algieri On May 31st.

I would be literally amazed if Khan beat Floyd, even Floyd pushing 40. I've always thought it was a mismatch, and this fight only solidifies that belief. I don't think he'll be competitive at all, I honestly think he'll be lucky to win a round.

Khan has the sort of style that looks good and can COMPLETELY shut down scrubs, but any time he fights a solid fighter, he looks look shit, and/or loses.

He's too dumb to do anything with Floyd. All he has is handspeed and range.

And you're a Floyd fan, I don't need to tell you that Floyd is clever and adapts in the ring. If Floyd started off fighting negatively and Khan was having more success than anticipated, he'd play the aggressive counter puncher. And like I said, it's pretty obvious at this point how to beat Khan. You don't even have to KO him, you just walk him down and beat him up. Floyd probably fights more aggressively from the start, especially seeing as Khan can't punch.

I think this would be a pathetic fight for Floyd to take as his "last" fight.

Also, I'm very surprised at your score. I didn't score it, but it seemed like an Algieri win to me, a draw at best for Khan. 8 to 4 is crazy. And I thought Khan beat Maidana, so it's not like I'm such a Khan hater I think he loses every close fight by default.

I'll watch it again and score it.

 

Brook has a much better chance at beating Floyd I think.

 

Most top welters have a better chance than Khan, but I still don't think Brook has a realistic chance, nor is the fight a realistic possibility. Who has even heard of Brook in 'Murica?

 

I think Floyd would adapt and beat him, I wouldn't bet on Khan in a million years. BUT as I've said all along, I think Khan would give him problems early, and I wouldn't be totally shocked if Khan won.

Re: the Algieri fight, I could see 115-113 for Khan, 117-111 seems a bit wide. In terms of people's perception of how the fight went, I think Algieri benefited from the expectation that he was just going to get crushed in there.

The fact that Floyd would want to test Khan's chin might make for a more exciting fight, as well.

Having said all that, I assume that after a close fight with Algieri, Khan's stock has dropped and Floyd probably won't be interested in fighting him anymore. Then again, it may make him more interested; you never know..

 

What part about Amir Khan is a bum don't people seem to understand?

 

Loaded, you really wouldn't be surprised if Khan beat Floyd Mayweather?

 

Khan would button mash the shit outta Floyd

 

Boxing IQ would be in the low teens...AWESOME!!!

 

After rewatching(don't know why maybe i'm depress) I had it 6-6 but if someone should've won it..it was Algieri. Khan seems to be stuck between to styles...his typical rock'em sock'em robots style and whatever Virgil Hunter is trying to teach him...Khan is not going to change/improve he is what he is...let him be aggressive go for the KO or get KO that is his boxing life. Maybe try to teach him better footwork or punching technique...

 

The part where he clowns Devon Alexander who did much better against Bradley and beat Mattysse, and the part where he clowned Zab Judah who is seen in pretty high standards by some here

Khan is not a bum, he is just the most one-dimensional world-class fighter out there. If he is able to fight with his strengths he is very very good, if you are able to force him off that he becomes very very medicore.

He is annoying, he is stupid, he is ugly even, but not a bum

 

I will tell you what Khan is....he is the Anti Mickey Ward.

Ward was a guy with one truly truly world-class attribute and he rode it all the fucking way into Tinseltown.

Khan is a guy with one really really really fatal flaw, one very vulnerable Achilles {Achillis} heel, which he has wrapped in a cocoon of handspeed and careful matchmaking and rode it all the way to the verge of a money fight with mayweather.

 

Here's a list of fighters from 140-147 who would beat Khan:

Floyd
Pac
Crawford
Bradley
Thurman
Matthysse
Brook
Spence
Porter
Saadam Ali
Rios
Provo
Postol
Berto: Washed up, but still has enough pop to KO Khan.
Garcia: Again
Peterson: Again

He's even money against Broner.

 

I think what happened was that Algieri punched a little harder than Khan anticipated, not to mention was also more AGGRESSIVE so Khan basically got on his bike. He almost went down in the 2nd or 3rd round, and was rocked a couple of more times throughout the fight, as he spent most of the night getting chased around the ring.

The book has been out on Khan for a while, but it's like he's REGRESSING instead of improving. His hand speed doesn't appear to be the same. He never had power, but now he can be officially considered FEATHER FISTED, and his defense is just as a bad as ever. I have absolutely no interest in watching him against even an old Floyd.

I don't even think Khan would win a rematch with Garcia.

 

Personally I think the better Khan looked, the more unlikely it was that PBF would to want to fight him. There's more chance of the fight happenning now IMO.

 

salient point, pascals wager! if he'd have beat the fuck outta algeiri there is no way in hell mayweather jr would have fought him!

 

Floyd is pushing 40. I think he's slipped noticeably even since the Canelo fight.. he's ready to go. A young guy like Khan with Khan's physical attributes *might* be the one to do it.

Again, I'm basing this on a combination of the style matchup & Floyd's age.. Floyd isn't even going to be as aggressive as Algieri was, at least not until he spends 2-3 rounds adjusting to Khan's handspeed. Obviously the 2007 Mayweather Jr beats Khan like a rented mule, but the 2007 Mayweather Jr would've beaten Maidana the same way.

 

It is odd btw that Algieri did beat Provodnikov, who many here see as a real world class fighter. Now that Khan beats Algieri with some trouble, he is a complete bum

 

"having just beat the fuck out of somebody", doesn't strike me as being particularly high on the list of PBF's criteria when deciding who to face next.

 

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Algieri, in keeping with Khan’s recent opposition, is neither a pressure fighter nor does he possess a solid punch. This one has a “Made-to-Order” feel to it and I cannot see Khan doing anything other than dominate from the outside over the 12 rounds.

With Mayweather eyeing Marciano’s undefeated record {49-0, 43 early wins} he probably regards Khan as easy pickings and so the script may well be that Algieri makes Khan looks good – good enough to be deemed worthy of a crack at Mayweather, but not so good as he has any chance of upsetting the notoriously negative, albeit talented, Michiganese.

Algieri for his part is a tall, angular boxer with good movement and solid fundamentals. He is taller than Khan and Khan has not always impressed against taller fighters, like Breidis Prescott for example. His best chance to win will to be draw Khan into a war of attrition.

With such a lucrative payday looming – and a crack at history too – I cannot see Khan make the amateurish mistakes of his past and allow this happen.

Khan by decision. Anything more is a bonus. Anything less would be a major surprise.


:bears: :bears:

 

Expectations going in... The odds were like 1.06 for Khan and 13.00 for Algieri... ::

 

Nobody anywhere was rating Algieris chances.

The thing is too......Provodnikov should have beaten Aligeri and had him all but finished in the first round. Provodnikov lost it. Algieri was half-blind after the first round and in a 10-7 hole. Procrastnikov then proceeded to Procrastinate and basically allow himself to lose. From a boxing point of view, Procrastnikov is a bit of a bungalow, there is nothing upstairs.

Khan never looked like he was going to trouble Algieri, not even close......and against a guy who really has never troubled anyone, the fact that Khan wasn't able to move Algieri an inch says a lot, considering how wide a favourite he was.

 

"Beating Algieri with some trouble" isn't an accurate description of the fight though. A lot of people think Algieri won.

I agree with you in one sense though, as much as Algieri gets ragged on, he is world class.

I mean, as hideous and annoying as he was to watch Vs FFH Provo, I thought he beat him much clearer than Bradley and Lucas did. Bradley was very close, Lucas was fairly close with FFH Provo coming on strong at the end of fight and Lucas looking worse for wear. But despite how hideously negative the scrubby yuppie was Vs Provo, I thought the good old FFH Provo won only 2 or 3 rounds Vs French Algiers. Obviously that win is no joke, even if it was a favourable matchup for him stylistically.

 

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Come on Pascals!

 

Algieri shit the bed against Pac. But everyone (including myself) lost sight of the fact that, well, that's Pacquiao. And I don't think Algieri would've won in any scenario, but I think the version that showed up against Khan probably gives a less embarrassing account of himself

 

Algieri is only going to get better with time.

Just something to consider....the guy is a converted kickboxer with no real boxing acumen and has gone the distance with Khan, Pac, Provodnikov...:bears:

 

Come on, we both know that's not true, that's some desperate Khan fan bullshit ::

Algieri looked surprisingly OK to me Vs Manny, I mean he didn't have nubcake jitters etc, given his first big fight was against a legit superstar.

He was just completely outclassed and couldn't do anything with Pacquiao. His stratagy wasn't a bad one.

You think the more aggressive French Algiers that fought Khan would do better against Pacquiao? I mean, really? Even Floyd found out that running from Pacquiao was the best strategy. If the Khan French Algiers showed up against Pacquiao, I think Pacquiao would have stopped him.

 

The version that fought Khan would get DROP an additional 5-6 times against Pacquiao. Algieri was trying to pull a Marquez IV...box/counter you can see it in the way he threw the right hand...he was trying to replicate what Marquez did to Pacquiao....but he never had the power/technique or timing to do it.

Algieri being uber aggressive vs. Pacquiao is just suicide..

 

Yep.