Wilder is horrible...

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  1. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    That, or they don't want to spend money on PPV undercards. Promotors say they don't impact buy-rates.
     
  2. REEDsART

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    THAT's Deontay Wilder...

    Even @ a World Class Heavyweight Level, SOMEBODY is Getting Knocked the Fuck Out During a Deontay Wilder Fight...It's Going to Be HIM Sometimes, Other Times it's Going to Be his Opponent...

    But Rest Assured, 8 Out of 10 Times, a Deontay Wilder Fight WILL End in a KO, 1 Way or the Other...& That's EXACTLY What the Heavyweight Division Needs...A Big, Personable Young Man w/Enough Bravery, Power, Aggression and Vulnerability to CONSISTENTLY Make for Entertaining Bouts...

    And for the 1st Time in a Looooooooooong Time, there's a Legitimate HANDFUL of Fairly Intriguing Heavyweight Fights to Be Made....

    REED:cheer:
     
  3. Pascals Wager

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    :lol:
     
  4. Slice N Dice

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    Reed, have you seen much of Joshua? If so, what did you think?
     
  5. Irish

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    Lots of people do. It is why I always said you and Clogg should team up and have your own show. A vulnerable guy with an offensive tool. On TV.
     
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    The power hug, a wald pussy special.
     
  9. steve_dave

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    Look at his steroid arm, hugging the life out of poor Povvles.
     
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    Poor flabby little Povvles didn't stand a chance against the big steroid arm of such epic hugging propensity.

    I want to see a rematch, now it's a level playing field with big Tank Povvles.
     
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    wald pussy

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  12. Irish

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    As if steroids had fuck all to do with Povvles being sent like Skittles across the dance floor by a single left hook.

    The stupid fat cunt couldn't even beat Albanian Pimp Marco Huck.
     
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    Wilder looks like he'd get blasted by Tyson Fury, forget wald pussy
     
  14. Irish

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    Thats good proud Irish stock, not like those slimy Pakis they have brought into Britain. Next time you see the Bauld Fury take a ten count will be the first.

    The Brits did well with their Irish, we engage with society, contribute. Unlike some.

    Scumbag.
     
  15. Irish

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    "You Swallowed Against Wlad"

    :lol:

    We have their measure. Yes we do.

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  16. Irish

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    David Haye is one uneless lucky BUM.....multi-million dollar fights...and he did NOTHING to deserve 'em...NOTHING.....
     
  18. Irish

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    If by "Uneless" you mean Clueless, then I debate..............he's quite smart. He went up the Cruiseweight route, taking risks when barely having 3 or 4 rounds in his tank at any given time. Unified the Cruiser titles and spent forever on TV calling out Wlad, including confronting him, black thug style, in a shopping centre.

    All the UK Urban Community {yeah Britain has really gone to the dogs} were online "Yo yo yo, diss whiteboy fraid of my bwoy Haye".....and he got a title shot outdoors ina ball park.

    Then he ran off from that, and fought Valuev instead, and then beat up Ruiz and Montee Barrett, thus allowing himself a bigger slice of the pie when he finally ballsed up and fought Wlad.

    Then he parlayed some more British Thug Scene action involving Chisora into a massive payday vs Chisora in the UK, on the khan vs garcia TV undercard.

    So he's no dope when it comes to making a few quid off other peoples coat-tails.
     
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    REED Saw a Couple of his Ammy Bouts in the Last Olympics, but that's It...





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  20. Irish

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    Joshua could be the classic "Shitty Amateur, Good Pro", depending on how you look at things.

    For me, he lucked out in winning that Olympic Gold Medal, he really did. He probably lost at least twice, once in the final and once early on vs the Cuban.

    What he has going for him today is that he has matured physically very fast, is a specimen at the age of 24 and his fighting the sort of guys he can look good against.

    We are yet to see him being hit back.
     
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    He is way better now that ever in amateurs. I am beginning to become a Joshua believer, if he has a chin
     
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    I had no expectations of him when he turned pro, tbh. He's improved biggly.
     
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    Irish is right btw, he lost twice in the Olympics and was given blatant gifts. He's not a rightful Gold medal winner at all. Partly because of that, I was a Joshua hater for a while, but he is looking pretty legit as a pro though, somehow. Improved quick.

    I think he'd batter that big lanky bum Wilder right now.
     
  25. Slice N Dice

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    I wouldn't go as far to say he was a shitty amateur. He looked good in the amateur World Championships when he reached the final. He didn't look good in the Olympics though, and I agree I thought he lost a couple of the bouts he "won". His progress as a pro has been pretty sensational though.
     
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    I'm still not convinced by Joshua. He absolutely did get a pair of gifts in that Olympic 'win' and frankly I thought he'd be shite as a pro. He seems to have improved, and his power seems absolutely legit, but he is fighting absolute fucking bums and has literally fought no-one who has even come close to hitting him back. There are some similarities for me with David Price - another successful ammy who looked great smashing mooks for a while until he fought someone who might hit him back and he got sparked, twice.

    I'll reserve judgement until he's actually beaten someone worth a damn.

    MTF
     
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    That is all true, and the name fighters he's fought are utterly shot. I guess he just looks a lot better as a pro than an amateur.

    He also looks a lot better than David Price.
     
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    The difference is Price got sparked big time as an amateur (on more than one occasion I believe). Joshua, with the benefit of hindsight, just looked very raw and as far as I'm aware was only dropped by Whyte (where he got straight back up). Whilst he should have lost a few of his bouts he never looked out of his depth.
     
  29. Irish

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    Does he. Why are you telling me :dunno:
     
  30. Irish

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    I don't recall Price being sparked....and Prices thing seems confidence-oriented. He did OK in the Thompson rematch but gassed because he was so fucking uptight. He was always getting caught and rattled in the amateurs and I recall him being cold-cocked by some fucker on the break in one of his early fights.....and taking it.

    Its worth pointing out that Tony Thompson is probably the highest-regarded of all the guys that Fury, Price and Joshua have faced thus far. :doh:

    There is Steve Cunningham but he came up from CW.

    NEITHER of ANY of Haye, Fury, Price, Joshua have fought each other as pros. Sad.

    In fact, of the British Heavyweight Top 10..............
    1: Tyson Fury (Wilmslow), 24-0, British and European champion
    2: Anthony Joshua (Watford), 12-0
    3: Dereck Chisora (Finchley), 20-5
    4: David Price (Liverpool), 19-2
    5: Hughie Fury (Manchester), 15-0
    6: Dillian Whyte (Brixton), 14-0
    7: Gary Cornish (Inverness), 20-0
    8: Richard Towers (Sheffield), 15-1
    9: Ian Lewison (Brixton), 10-2-1, Southern Area champion
    10: Ali Adams (Chelsea), 14-4-1



    .......................only Fury and Chisora have fought each other and Haye isn't even on the jaysus list.

    The problem is the same, only worse, when you switch over to the World Ratings.


    1: Wlad Klitschko (Ukraine), 64-3, IBF/WBO/WBA
    2: Deontay Wilder, 33-0, WBC
    3: Tyson Fury (GB), 24-0
    4: Alexander Povetkin (Russia), 28-1
    5: Bermane Stiverne (Canada), 24-2-1
    6: Vyacheslav Glazkov (Ukraine), 20-0-1
    7: Bryant Jennings, 19-1
    8: Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria), 20-1
    9: Artur Szpilka (Poland), 18-1
    10: Mike Perez (Cuba), 21-1-1

    .......
    Jennings has fought Perez, Povetkin has fought Perez, Wilder has fought Stiverne but Klitschko has fought Povetkin, Jennings, Pulev, and is supposedly lined up for Fury. Thats 4 out of the top 10.

    At either domestic British level OR International level, they are all angling for something other than fights against each other.
     

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