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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    Agreed :lol:
     
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    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    @ mex - didn't you train martial arts, also?
     
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    We have different opinions on it man. You are comparing elite to the average guy on the streets. Im comparing it among champs
     
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    But im not comparing Lawler to me. Im comparing him to other champions in MMA history. That is a huge difference.
     
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    Buster Douglas was a title holder?
     
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    did he not win any belts when he knocked out mike?
     
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    BTW, speaking of title holders, because in reality that is what Lawler is since there are other Welter champs in other orginzations. Ben Askren would beat Lawler.
     
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    Was he a title holder or the legit Champion?
     
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    am I living in some sort of parallel universe here
     
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    well he did knock out the undisputed champ.
     
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    Yeah I trained in Karate for a bit, then TKD for years. Didn't like it much tbh, prefer boxing by a country mile.

    I do wanna see if I'm any good at wrestling though, so I'm going to an MMA gym soon.
     
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    You have already estabished that you think any pro fighter is elite. Let's just leave it at that and disagree.
     
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    Do you think any one of your fighting abilities could be called elite or just that awesome one punch power?
     
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    Even on a pro level, I would say my raw speed and power is elite. Timing, accuracy, ring IQ, stamina, and overall skill? Not so much.

    Obviously it takes a lot more than just speed and power to be an elite fighter though, a lot more. You have to not only be very well rounded, but extremely hard working and disciplined too.
     
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    lol do you always troll? I said the guys that make it to the top are. but yes lets leave it there
     
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    let us not forget the name chode mendes
     
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    See what I mean? This is why it's basically pointless arguing with Anthony these days, he's turned into a troll. All he does is pointlessly argue without really reacting to any points, then simply twists your words and makes stuff up, just like he did there.
     
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    I've noticed it more than just here. I usually don't bother to engage
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    Nick is my favorite fighter. I think he can beat Robbie again, but I'm not 100% sure of it. I'm 100% sure it would be a great fight. Neither guy is going to run or lay and pray. Neither guy will back down.

    Too bad Nick lost a close fight with Anderson and tested positive for weed again. They might have made Diaz / Lawler 2 if Nick had won and hadn't gotten suspended afterwards.
     
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    Lawler's "Elite" in the Sense he's the REIGNING Champion & a Consensus Top 10'er even Prior to that...

    But Even w/his Recent Wins & the Title He's Acquired and Defended, REED Would Be HESITANT to Characterize Lawler as THE Best of the Best Within his Division (Another Way to Define “Elite”)…Often in Combative Sports, the Champion ISN’T the Best Guy in that Division…Worthy of RESPECT, but Still Not Regarded as the Best…



    No Way Does Lawler Run the Table as GSP Did, or Even APPROACH Something of that Ilk…When GSP Vacated, it Opened the Door for Practically EVERYBODY…To his Credit, Lawler Can Still PROVE to Be “Elite”, in the TRUEST Sense of the Word, but as REED Types, it’s Definitely ARGUABLE if he Is or Isn’t (as the Pages and PAGES of Banter has Illustrated)…




    REED
     
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    Not to Harp it Toooooo Much, but REED Ain't Really Buying Rory's Body "Quitting On Him", vs. Lawler...When your Body “Gives Out” On You, You DON’T Wince in Pain, Fall and TURTLE as Rory Did, from the Kill Shot…

    Lawler was ALSO Compromised to Some Degree, Swallowing Blood, Getting HIT on his Split Lip, yet he Did what he HAD to Do…


    Rory’s MIND “Quit On Him”…Granted, the Mind is THE Most Important “Tool” a Fighter Has, but REED Can’t Agree w/Rory’s BODY “Quitting on Him”, as Many of Ya’ll are Stating…



    REED
     
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    You are right here arguing with me. But apparently my stubbornness is trolling and yours isnt. How special of you. What about when you made up that I said Robbie was elite because Rory couldn't beat him? What does that make you?

    Tell me again how Tito isnt Elite and Lawler is using your same criteria
     
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    Only in the world of MWS and Who? is Carlos Baldomir & Arturo Gatti elite
     
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    Guys they made it to the top
     
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    Definition of Elite: One that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities.


    Does that sound like Robbie Lawler? Hell, doest that sound like Froch or Bradley?

    Hey who? What about Gatti, Baldomir, Douglas, Judah? Mallinaggi? Are they superior to the rest in terms of ability or Qualities?
     
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    Depending on the definition of the rest you can come up with different levels of elite. See your elite judo skills or Mayweather as having elite boxing skills.
     
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    Well you base them on other champions. Which was my point from the beginning.
     
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    His_Royness "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I did not partake in that elite argument from the VERY beginning and I don't think I said I base it purely on other champions.
     
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    I didnt mean you and in His Royness. I meant you as in general. So like if someone we to ask you how you make eggs, you reply would be.

    "you take two eggs...."

    I was saying basically that is the way i was comparing them.
     

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