Marvin Hagler vs Winky Wright at 160lbs

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    I expect everyone to pick Hagler, but how does the fight go?

    I expect to hear the usual idiots knee-jerking responses like "Hagler KO 5, he's lightyears better than Wright"....but let's be mature about this, Hagler IS NOT knocking out Wright in this fight.
     
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    Hagler beats the shit outta Wright, and if it's a 15 rounder, then yes, there's a strong possibility of a late Hagler TKO.

    Two TOTALLY different classes of fighter here, and only a true Hagler hater such as yourself would dispute that.
     
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    lol

    I would have expected nothing less from you. You're one of my favourite posters here btw...although we disagree so often.

    Wright has a good chin and his defense is impregnable (his style isn't impetuous though....lol). He'll annoy Hagler with southpawedness (well both will be annoyed by that) and consistent jab. Obviously Hagler is better...but he's not stopping Wright. Wright is also slightly taller than Hagler.

    Marvin will win but after a looooong night.
     
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    Hagler beats him pretty soundly. The advantages that Wright may have are pretty slight. Winky had a great jab, but I don't know if it is better than Hagler's. Winky had a good workrate, but so did Hagler. Winky has a tough defense to break through with the high guard, but Hagler slipped shots well and parried well too. It wasn't until really 1984 when Hagler started getting hit with more consistency.

    Where it really hurts Wright is if Hagler decides to take it to him and fight a more aggressive fight and try to make it a war. Hagler usually boxed his opponents and methodically broke them down, but Winky would be at a pretty big disadvantage in power if Hagler made it a war. The guy urinated blood and took bombs to the head from Mugabi and it barely slowed him down. I don't see Wright faring well, and he either loses a clear UD or gets stopped late.

    Winky was very good, but let's not forget how close he fought in his prime (or very close to it) with Jermain Taylor and Fernando Vargas. Good fighters, but one was a 154 lb. fighter and the other had flaws a mile long.
     
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    Hagler's natural advantages in 80sness are pretty formidable here. I think he'd wear Winky down before the 15 were out.
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Hagler would out-southpaw Wink
     
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    I have a feeling, a wee inkling, that Hagler was just about good enough to get through Winky's basic defense that Tito found completely impenetrable.

    Seriously, I don't think Winky has much to offer Hagler at all, Haggles would steamroll him - I doubt Winky would last the distance. Winky wouldn't be able to shuffle around and settle into his basic jabbing routine, Hagler would force him to fight, and beat the shit out of him.
     
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    Yup, Hagler was a machine that just ran through every and anyone without any resistance. I had forgotten about that.
     
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    Winky wasn't a great middleweight, nor does he have the style to trouble Hagler. Haggles would mash him up.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think early on it's a slow fight. But a prime Hagler's advantages particularly in strength would be a huge difference.

    Hagler via clear UD or late stoppage. Decent fight but Hagler would clearly win it.
     
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    Hagler UD

    Winky would win a few rounds but the kind of close ones where judges give the benefit of the doubt to one fighter as they don't want to appear biased. Marvin wouldn't "walk through" Wright. He'd have some difficulties but I don't see him ever in danger of losing.
     
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    Winky has never been knocked out and it aint gonna happen with Hagler
     
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    The Hagler from the first Hamsho fight would beat the living fuck outta Wright. Hamsho woulda beaten Wright's ass, let alone Hagler.

    Winky Wright is INSANELY overrated, historically speaking.
     
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    Yup, Caveman Lee, Antuofermo, Sibson and Minter all destroy Wright too. Wright had no chin, no defense, no boxing skills.
     
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    I like how Caveman Lee is thrown in there with the others as if he belongs... Hilarious stuff
     
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    Well I see where this is going....every Hagler opponent would beat Wright, and not just Wright, but every fighter post 80s.
     
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    Not every one. But their 80sness gives them all a big head start.
     
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    Wright would have been one of Hagler's toughest defenses....but because he's from the 00s, an era where people had suddenly forgotten how to fight, apparently, he gets dominated and wiped out by Hagler. lol
     
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    It's just amusing that Caveman Lee was included there
     
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    lol

    I did that to make a point.
     
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    Wright didn't really have anything to trouble Hagler with. Hagler actually had the better right jab of the two, that alone takes away Wright's best asset.

    Hagler would bust Wright up, and give him a pretty good whupping. Winky would be pretty bruised and battered looking at the end.

    We're talking about two completely different leagues of fighter here.

    Wright wasn't even a great, let alone an atg like Hagler. Wright was in the "very good" class.
     
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    If history has taught us anything it is that a "very good" fighter can trouble a great or even beat him if he has the right styles and abilities. Don`t make me have to post examples.
     
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    Wright's style wouldn't be problematic for Hagler.
     
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    I dunno man, Wright`s style is a problem for anyone. Southpaw, consistent hard jab, tight defense and good chin. It`s not like Hagler was a virtuoso fighter like Roy Jones or a young Muhammad Ali?
     
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    Hagler's not Jones or Ali but he was versatile and did everything really well. Winky would put up a good effort early but Hagler would figure him out and pick him apart. He's good at what he does but he doesn't do anything well enough to beat Hagler.
     
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    "War" Mantra Hagler POSSIBLY Stops Wright Late, in a 15 Rounder...Most Likely Scenario is Hagler by CLEAR UD Over 12...8-4, 9-3ish, in an Utterly FORGETTABLE Fight...





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    Exactly.
     
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    It wouldn't be a virtuoso performance, but it wouldn't be a particularly competitive fight either.

    Wright be outclassed, and beaten up.
     
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    THIS...

    The Wink was @ his BEST Walking In Behind the High Guard, Firing Off Jabs...He WOULDN'T Have Success Walking Hagler Down, NOR Would he Force Hagler to GIVE Ground...Hagler Would Eventually TIME that Jab Too...

    Hagler Picked Shots Well and Would Not Only Work his Way AROUND the Wink's High Guard, he'd Punch THRU It on Occasion...Hagler Would Beat the Body Up, Forcing the Guard to Come Down, then he'd Land to the Head...

    Again, a KO is Unlikely, Especially in a 12 Rounder, but it'd Be a VERY Clear Win for Hagler, @ the End of the Day...






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    Wright is closer in class to Ayub Kalule than he is to Marvin Hagler.
     

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