He arguably lost to Herrera. But if you really watch him closely, the guy knows what he's doing. He's not a monster, but he's got respectable power. And he has really good timing. Hopefully, he will fight Thurman and all the other top welterweight now that he is at 147.
He's not exceedingly good at anything, but he adjust properly with the tools he has and he manages to win. Gotta give him props.
I think Danny Garcia is a good overall fighter but I don't believe he's an elite fighter. he has looked slow in his last couple fights. I thought he would look better at 147. I feel he would lose to many of the top fighters at this new weight class. If he can improve on his overall speed he can cause a lot more problems but at this rate he just seems to slow.
Totally agree. He is not slow. And with his timing, he surprises his opponent anyway. He has a way of throwing shots his opponents do not expect. He needs another big fight because people seem to forget his very impressive dismantling of Mathysse.
"Swift" is about as ILL Fitting a Nickname as there is in Boxing, Currently...AND, Shawn Porter (Who ISN'T "Good") Wiped his Ass w/Paulie... REED:hammert:
He beat up a shot Paulie, like he was suppose to. Relax. Spence would beat Garcia right now. I think Garcia vs Thurman is a difficult fight to pick. I'd still go with Keith, but I'm not confident about it anymore. Let's see it though!
Garcia did what any top fighter is expected to do against Malignaggi: win every round and stop him. What's your point?
What's your point? He got out boxed by Peterson. Now he beats up a washed up Paulie, and you would overlook his flaws? Garcia has decent timing, but make no mistake, his handspeed is mediocre.
I thought Danny looked ok. Paulie isn't a real welterweight. I think Garcia is even money with Thurman, but would probably lose to Brook, and would DEFINITELY lose to Spence. But he can make some noise in this division.
Thurman-Garcia's a Fan-Friendly Fight for Sure, but like You, REED Favors Thurman by UD or Very Late KO... REED:hammert:
He did not get out boxed by Peterson. That''s bull shit. And he definitely landed the cleaner and harder shots in that fight. Peterson was desperate in that fight. And Garcia dispatched your boy Mathysse. Does he get credit for that? What''s funny is none of Haymon''s crew at 147 have proven anything. And that goes for Spence too. If these guys don't start fighting each other it''s a joke. I hope Haymon doesn't plan to have multiple champions at 147.
Garcia took a beating LATE against Peterson. I think that is alarming because he's fighting tougher opposition at 147. Thurman punches hard. And Garcia will have to keep his defense up to win that one. Brook I think would be too smart and crafty to let Garcia get him into a brawl. Spence has too much skill for him IMO, inexperience be damned. This is no knock on Garcia. It's just that I suspect there are better fighters at 147.
Yeah, basically no reason for Haymon not to make that fight next. Thurman wants it. Garcia wants it. It makes boxing sense and financial sense. Thurman vs Garcia SHOULD be next.
What fuckin fight were you watching? Garcia landed cleaner shots than Peterson? Lmfao! Hope that's a joke.
Peterson definitely landed cleaner shots. Problem there was his dumb ass waited too long to get going.
Swift is average at best. Wide puncher, decent power. Not particularly fast and defensively poor. His best attribute is his chin. he tales far too many flush shots and doesn't slip or parry shots well. He'll be in a few good scraps but we'll see him get his ass whupped at some point. If Peterson would have started faster he would have gotten the win. That was a case of Peterson running out of rouns but Danny definitely got the worse end by the end of the night.
Something tells me we'll see Garcia vs Porter next. In which case, I'll take Garcia in that one. Porter is too wide open.
He's a good fighter. I assure you though, Spence would beat his ass right now. On skill alone. Last southpaw Garcia faced, he looked like SHIT against a washed up Judah. Spence would hit Garcia at will.
Spence better start beating some one. As it is, guys like Thurman will continue to duck him, saying, "Spence doesn't deserve a shot." And that's basically what Thurman said when asked about Spence. As far as Garcia, I'd only point out that a lot of people, including you, didn't give him a chance against Mathysse.
Garcia got plenty of credit for the Matthysse fight from everybody, including me, so I'm not sure why you continue to bring it up. Are you offended that I only think of Garcia as a "good fighter"? What do you wanna consider him? Elite? He's simply not elite in the same way as a Floyd, Rigo, Ward, Kov, Golov, ect. But he's a GOOD fighter. He arguably has two losses. Personally, I had him winning the Herrera fight narrowly, and had him losing to Peterson. There's certain styles he does well against, and certain styles he will struggle against.
My only point was that you under-estimated him against Mathysse and it's entirely possible you continue to do so.
We have a better idea of how Garcia deals with different styles at this point than we had at the time of the Matthysse fight. Danny does well against guys who come to him, or stand in front of him. Which is why I just stated, I like him over Porter. If he fought someone like Rios or Provo, he'd look like a million bucks. Against a technician who gives him angles, he's gonna struggle. He's not very quick on his feet at all, nor is very fluid or creative. I wanna see him fight Thurman though. It's a very interesting fight. I expect Thurman's edge in handspeed to give him the lead early. But Thurman DOES make mistakes, especially as the fight progresses. Garcia could capitalize on them.
Funny because I find Garcia very fluid. And he doesn't waste a lot of movement. I don't think there's a fighter out there who doesn't have difficulty with angles. So while it may be true, it's hardly unique to him. As far as now having had the chance to see Garcia against more styles, let's remember that when it comes to thurman, brook and Spence , we have not. Just saying. I also think garcia/thurman is interesting because I don't think thurman's chin is very good.
I wouldn't call him "fluid" but he is a smart fighter. He can adapt. Seems to have his problems with someone who can box from the outside. I think his lack of foot speed plays a role, and I don't like that he gets hit so much. Its gonna cost him against a skillful fighter I think. I'm still bothered by how he faded against Peterson. Peterson wasn't pressuring him and Danny faded inexplicably. I don't think that bodes well against the best guys at 147.
Garcia is ASS.....A simple implementation of a JAB will do wonders for him...and stop with the slow ass lead left hooks...
