Round By Round: Miguel Cotto vs. Saul "Canelo" Alvarez

You should be the promoter.

 

No, but he could back him up with handspeed and fluster him and make him hold his hands, and make him miss and look stupid.

Ring Generalship

 

'Ring generalship' is nothing but a tool you use to land something meaningful in my book. If you dont land something meaningful & the other guy does you lose the round

 

While I agree with the general premise, it basically means that in your book, or under that rule, smaller weaker men can NEVER beat bigger stronger guys.

 

When the difference in strength/power is as pronounced as it was last night its certainly difficult...you'd have to outland the other guy at a much higher rate than Cotto did in the large majority of those rounds. I think in the end Alvarez actually outlanded him by a decent margin as well as landing with far more effect? Pretty easy fight to score, imo.

 

Canelo fought smart. He knew Cotto's most dangerous punch was the hook and he defended very well against it. Cotto would've fared much better if he had kept using his jab. Canelo is the goods. Not sure as a MW but he's the best JMW, hands down. That being said, the scorecards were ridiculously lopsided IMO. The fight was not a shutdown.

 

Agreed, and HERE COMES DA CATCHWEIGHT will be the next chapter of this nonsense. If GGG can't drag Ward down, then Alvarez cannot drag GGG down.

The "new MW champ" should be obliged to fight the "Best MW Contender" at the limit.

 

Surely mandatory defenses have to be at the division limit?

 

These catchweight stupidity started with DLH. I really hope they get rid of it. Sanctioning bodies should be strict, like they used to.

 

Oscar and Hopkins..............christ bring back Mr Grey, Nat Fleischer, Don King, all is forgiven.

 

Typical Xplosive bullshit.

No one is overrating Canelo. But those of us that are unbiased and know the game are informing you that he's better than most of y'all give him credit for. Y'all act as though GGG would just walk through him with ease....that is ridiculous.

 

I don't think the fight was 10-2...but 10-2 is not an unreasonable scorecard. There were certainly 10 rounds that you could score for Canelo. I had it closer...but that was mainly because I felt that Canelo just wasn't throwing enough punches in a few of the later rounds.....even though he still seemed to be in control in those very rounds.

 

"Walk through" to me implies a 3-4 round blow out. I'm not saying that.

I'm predicting the same outcome I've ALWAYS predicted.... Canelo hangs in for first 5 rounds or so, then gradually gets broken down and battered.

 

I picked Canelo by stoppage and I agree with all those statements.

 

Canelo is the slowest elite fighter I have seen for some time. The fact that his best win is over an old former 140lbr who was dropped and nearly stopped by Torres 10 years ago says a lot about the "Epic" that was last nights fight and last nights winner.

Canelo is also the worst MW champ of all time, if for no other reason than he's not a MW and won't ever fight a MW at the MW limit.

 

I'd say it started with Leonard.

 

Will be interesting to see what the PPV numbers are. I'm gonna take a wild guess and venture to say they are above 150,000 which is doubtful GGG's PPV made it to.

Like it or not Canelo has all of the power. GGG pretty much has to take what he can get.

Sorry GGG fans, that's just how it is.

I also find it hypocritical for Ward haters who claimed GGG had the upperhand and should drop the 4 lbs to fight GGG for HIS belts at 168 and yet will blow a gasket if Canelo does the same thing at 160.

 

I don't think either guy should concede in the weight dept. There is a difference however. Golovkin is not fighting guys just above the middleweight limit claiming he's too small for super middle but simultaneously calling himself the super middleweight champion.

 

The difference is obvious, and should not need pointing out.

GGG NEVER GOT Ward to drop the weight.

Canelo WILL get GGG to drop it.

So one guy asks but the other guy demands.

Big difference.

Eventually, somebody has to MOVE UP to fight GGG and considering that the MW title is at stake, and the traditional limit is 160, that somebody should be Canelo.

Cake and Eat it Too.

 

THIS

Canelo will be a live contender for the first few rounds and maybe even produce a cut and a bruise on the face of GGG, but once the Russian hunk starts pummeling the body of an increasingly gassed Ginger, it will be over for the Mexican idol. I predict a stoppage either via bodyshot or lights out punch to the temple. It will be over before the 10th round.

 

ok.

But you are predicting a TKO based on a gradual beatdown...and expecting a one sided fight right?

 

I felt that CANELO won....but not by much 7-5....those scorecards were brought to you by G....

Cotto was straight(for once) about NEVER ever NOT in no way fighting GGG....

Yesterday CANELO got caught in the MOMENT and ran his mouth a little too much..."I'll fight him right now I'm not scared"....watch as everyone in G n team Canelo..back peddle, back peddle back peddle out of that macho talk....

G has the golden ginger....he can feed on 147 for the next 12-24 months...before he's force to move to 160...and hopefully by then GGG is gone..or defeated...


GUaranteed...Ginger next fight if it's against any decent 154...he will look like TOTAL SHIT...Huge career victory over COTTO + holidays coming up(xmas, new years, 3 kings)+All the food+plus the thought in the back of his mind that.."I made it" = 200-210 pound GINGER by February 3...

 

Cotto looked like he'd get stopped after about 7 rounds but the shiftless paddy just stopped punching. He had trouble getting past Cotto's jab. How's that going to work against GGG?

 

Maybe not round 7...but around 9-10-11 I was thikning of Ginger just press down on the gas a bit more..and push Cotto back..he could get the stoppage..clearly it look to everyone like Cotto's punches were not having an effect...but Canelo still fought like he respected Cotto's power....

Canelo vs. GGG....The only way I see Ginger being competitive if he comes out blazing with body shots.....Canelo has heavy hands but he isn't a power puncher...not by a long shot...

 

V simple. He doesnt fight GGG.

 

Regarding that last paragraph, I never claimed that. I'm COMPLETELY anti-catchweight. If Golov woulda fought Ward, do it at 168. If Canelo and Golov fight, do it at 160.

To HELL with these catchweights.

 

Canelo is on God status right now for going the distance against a smaller man. Had Golov been in there with Mig last night, I bet my life savings Mig wouldn't have seen the 8th, but Golov woulda gotten criticized for "picking on little Cotto".

There's definitely a hypocrisy going on. I assure you, Canelo came into the ring last night weighing more than Golov enters the ring at. Yet he's getting ALL the props for beating up, yet not finishing little and old Miggy.

 

Nah, this I disagree with. It wasn't a close fight. 4 rounds for Mig, at BEST.

Canelo controlled the entire fight, and I'd love to be able to say otherwise, but he did.

 

I think golovkin should fight alvarez at 155lbs

 

I hear Alvarez gonna be named WBC Super Champion of the 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 159 1/2 and "Coming in the ring at 181" weight divisions. 8 Class World Champion Bitches!!!!!!!!!!!!!